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BLatent riff jacking in tunes?

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:02 am
by chronicrecords
I was just wondering if its considered acceptable to completely copy a main riff from a song then call it your own tune?, no remix or anything?

I was on beatport and heard

which clearly has the exact same main riff and synth sound as

honestly not trying to start a flame war here, im just trying to understand what is acceptable being a new producer and listening to alot of rap tunes i often find myself wanting to incorperate something from a rap tune to a dubstep tune im working on but im always paranoid about copying, plagiarizing etc..

so what is considered acceptable when copying tunes?

Re: BLatent riff jacking in tunes?

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:59 am
by Incognitorecords
Well, the tune is terrible anyway..

Re: BLatent riff jacking in tunes?

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 9:02 am
by chronicrecords
Incognitorecords wrote:Well, the tune is terrible anyway..
thanks for the insight bro

Re: BLatent riff jacking in tunes?

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:36 am
by Rekah
mate just do it i doubt anyone will really call you out on it unless you rip off a full tune, like if you took a little bit your just sampling it
best example i can think of is chase and status with saxon





listen to the intro in both and tell me there not the same, that 1 blatantly takes the piss





right the dose 1 was influenced by sub focus, hes taken a riff thats the same but put a major twist on it so its his own

i hope all that made sense

Re: BLatent riff jacking in tunes?

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:58 am
by jam1
I f-ing love Metallica... :5:

Re: BLatent riff jacking in tunes?

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:19 pm
by Rekah
jam1 wrote:I f-ing love Metallica... :5:
:5: who doesnt

Re: BLatent riff jacking in tunes?

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:29 pm
by dubloke
I always thought these two sounded pretty similar? No where near a rip off but maybe used the same sample and cut it up differentley?


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5jmxn ... garo_music




Re: BLatent riff jacking in tunes?

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:44 pm
by skotyb
jam1 wrote:I f-ing love Metallica... :5:

Re: BLatent riff jacking in tunes?

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 3:14 pm
by charliefoy

and


Sound slightly similar. Just at the start really, and there's a little bit of percussion on Two Faced that sounds similar so some percussion in Mud.

Re: BLatent riff jacking in tunes?

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:35 pm
by andy static
goth trad obviously has good taste....

Re: BLatent riff jacking in tunes?

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:19 pm
by test_recordings
Plagiarism is worthless unless there's a unique twist to it's use, like Evol probably thought he was being a real bad ass mofo putting that Ice Cube melody on with a 'dirty' bassline. Not always to everyone's taste and getting your own stuff ripped off is a piss-take but then again imitation is the sincerest form of flattery...

Re: BLatent riff jacking in tunes?

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:43 pm
by Shum
As long as you don't get caught tee he he he -t-

Re: BLatent riff jacking in tunes?

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:55 pm
by honey-d
Rekah wrote:
jam1 wrote:I f-ing love Metallica... :5:
:5: who doesnt
They call him HONEY D-JOOOOOOON

Re: BLatent riff jacking in tunes?

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 11:19 pm
by wolf89
jam1 wrote:I f-ing love Metallica... :5:

Re: BLatent riff jacking in tunes?

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 12:56 am
by gabezor
american young people like it when they hear things in dubstep songs that they can easily relate to, and things that sound familiar. if it sounds good go for it.

Re: BLatent riff jacking in tunes?

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:16 am
by grillis
^what?

trolls. everywhere

Can't believe I didn't spot the Mud-Two Faced intro bit

Re: BLatent riff jacking in tunes?

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:58 am
by circleofpsy
Straight up plagiarism is good for nothing. Done right, sampling can be a real art form. Sometimes you got to forget where something is taken from and instead focus on where its being taken to

Check it:


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Re: BLatent riff jacking in tunes?

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:08 am
by 64hz
yeah its just sampling, steal whatever you want just make sure you use it well.

Re: BLatent riff jacking in tunes?

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 2:50 pm
by charliefoy
grillis wrote:^what?

trolls. everywhere

Can't believe I didn't spot the Mud-Two Faced intro bit
Are you calling me a troll or the guy above me? haha

Re: BLatent riff jacking in tunes?

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:49 pm
by tacospheros
wow, that's what Evol Intent are up to now ? pretty depressing.






some people need to go back to jungle ....