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Ive been hearing mixed opinions.

I was recently scolded by a buddy of mine stating it was wrong to upload my newest track to soundcloud as an "original" because I sampled an old tune. All I did was sample his vocals for a few seconds of the song.....

To me a remix is literally taking a track thats completely made and tampering with it in anyway. What do you guys think?

Heres the track if you wanna hear it http://soundcloud.com/antman2x2/lonely

Edit: Ono more question, if you do sample a rapper or singer, whats the appropriate action to take for giving credits to them?

Depends if you think you can get away with it, the original is originally sampled and best not to be to popular.

I think a few vox's wont warrent enough for it to be considered a remix, but meh, It's a massively grey area with no real definition. I mean, we dont call Burials tunes remixes of beyonces' work, or a Zomby tune a remix of billy boyos'.

antman wrote:Edit: Ono more question, if you do sample a rapper or singer, whats the appropriate action to take for giving credits to them?

To approach them first for their permission to use their copyrighted material, other wise you're braking the law.

3za wrote:

antman wrote:Edit: Ono more question, if you do sample a rapper or singer, whats the appropriate action to take for giving credits to them?

To approach them first for their permission to use their copyrighted material, other wise you're braking the law.

Uh oh... am I gonna get in trouble?

If the musical content behind the vocals is substancially different from the original tune, then I'd just consider that sampling, you don't sample a guitar part from maroon 5 and say that's a remix do you? So why do it with vocals? It's still sampling imo. Unless the musical content below it is the same or close enough to be recognised to/as the original tune

antman wrote:

3za wrote:

antman wrote:Edit: Ono more question, if you do sample a rapper or singer, whats the appropriate action to take for giving credits to them?

To approach them first for their permission to use their copyrighted material, other wise you're braking the law.

Uh oh... am I gonna get in trouble?

Yeah, your going to jail...

Nah not really, it does break copywrite law(it might not depends what you sampled), but the chances of you going to court over it are super super slim.

Cant listen... but... Is it butchered beyond recognition? Burial tunes arent remixes ya know? Most flylo tunes arent either.

Basic A wrote:Cant listen... but... Is it butchered beyond recognition? Burial tunes arent remixes ya know? Most flylo tunes arent either.

No its not butchered beyond recognition. The beginning of the song starts with the singer, than I sampled one of his "high" tones and used it throughout the song.

A big part of the culture of dance music is seeing what you can get away with sampling. Dubstep is an underground genre, so you have a lot more leeway.

So, the short answer: if you think you can get away with it, do it.

As for your track, I'd say you used to much of the tune (especially in the intro) to call it an orignal. My 2c: Call it an unofficial remix / bootleg.

Astral wrote:Depends if you think you can get away with it, the original is originally sampled and best not to be to popular.

I think a few vox's wont warrent enough for it to be considered a remix, but meh, It's a massively grey area with no real definition. I mean, we dont call Burials tunes remixes of beyonces' work, or a Zomby tune a remix of billy boyos'.

Then again, Burial's Archangel has more in common with Ray J's One Wish than his Be True remix does with the Commix original...

The Prodigy's tunes Voodoo People and Smack My Bitch Up (among others) are made almost entirely from samples of other songs and they aren't considered remixes. If you wanna see how you can re-create them from the samples on Ableton, check these videos out:

with your mates understanding that would also mean that dr.dre chronic album with a whole album of remixes. Which in a sense is true. We dont think of it that way though