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just had a heated debate on facebook about squatting.

basically i feel that its alright as long as its done in genuinely unused building but that if someone comes along and obviously owns the building etc and asks you to leave you should just move on. and also that i hate when people try to dress it up as "political activism".

wondered what you lot thought about it...

If its done properly its fine. I've acctually lived in a squat myself for a few weeks in harder times. Taught me alot about things. Without it, I would've been out on the streets in the freezing cold. Some people out there rely on squatting.

laurent__duval wrote:just had a heated debate on facebook about squatting.

basically i feel that its alright as long as its done in genuinely unused building but that if someone comes along and obviously owns the building etc and asks you to leave you should just move on. and also that i hate when people try to dress it up as "political activism".

wondered what you lot thought about it...

Exactly my thoughts

If you find anything in the street and the owner comes back to you and ask his thing back, what are you gonna say? 'I found it, it's mine'. This is just plain stupid

laurent__duval wrote: and also that i hate when people try to dress it up as "political activism".

this is the only thing that annoys me about squatting, its laughable really.

Thought you meant this by the thread title.

Finders keepers losers weepers.

nicenice wrote:Finders keepers losers weepers.

people who say that are notorious for holding double standards.

but i cant say i disagree...

Honestly though, if you have a genuine need to squat i.e you're homeless then yeah go ahead. As long as its not someone else's home because that defeats the point. Or if the building has been abandoned for a long time and they're no signs of further development, and you have plans to do something productive with it. These are the only two cases of it being acceptable imo.

Seems like a bunch of rich uni kids have decided to take it up now because they think they have an opinion that's more important then everyone else's though.

noam wrote:

nicenice wrote:Finders keepers losers weepers.

people who say that are notorious for holding double standards.

but i cant say i disagree...

double standards never let me down

64hz wrote:

laurent__duval wrote: and also that i hate when people try to dress it up as "political activism".

this is the only thing that annoys me about squatting, its laughable really.

What are your views on this then?
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/ ... mansion.do
"Squatters take over Colonel Gaddafi's son's £11m London mansion"

still laughable.
its not stopping bullets is it? but at least they chose a good house to squat in, swimming pool, sauna, Jacuzzi and suede-lined cinema room.

is it meant to be a political statement?

fuck it, sweet house.

we should liberalise squatting laws.

then abolish the welfare state.

Its illegal now apparently.

nicenice wrote:Its illegal now apparently.

so i've heard. or it soon will be...

Gonna wipe out an entire culture, gonna be a lot of angry people out on the streets, quite literally.

got no problem with it, private ownership in capitalism implies the right to control property, property is theft, maaan!

couple of mates used to live in squats, the squats were always quite clean and well appointed but hated the idea of living with that many trustfarians.

Squat in my property, I'll be removing you with the 12 Guage... just saying..

Capture pt wrote:Thought you meant this by the thread title.

thought he meant this:

MikeE wrote:Squat in my property, I'll be removing you with the 12 Guage... just saying..

(said with the intent and in the manner of someone who isnt being a dick about it) why?
If you had a building you hadn't used in a while, and you found there were people living there cleanly and respectably, who were happy to move on if you ever needed to use it? Not that all squatters are going to be like this, but your statement included them and id be interested to hear how someone could justify that!

For potential time saving, I think its worth saying now that the sentence "because its mine" isnt going to carry much weight for me