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Clear Fast Wobble?

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:05 am
by jrisreal
I've been trying for a little while now to get this fast wobble sounding good. I don't know how to make a bass wobble fast but still sounding like a clear, clean wobble. If you don't know what I'm talking about, listen to datsik's track called Retreat and when the bassline hits the fast wobble, it sounds clear. If I were to do this with one of my basses, it would not be so clean because of the pitch of the bass wave itself not filling enough space between the pitch of the LFO. Do any of you people know about this?

Re: Clear Fast Wobble?

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 1:07 am
by Astral
Be specific as to which your actually talking about, talking about one specific wobble in Datsik and Excisions sea of wobbles is a needle in a haystack situation.

Re: Clear Fast Wobble?

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 1:12 am
by jrisreal
Astral wrote:Be specific as to which your actually talking about, talking about one specific wobble in Datsik and Excisions sea of wobbles is a needle in a haystack situation.

its about 0:57-0:58 in to the video...the bass wobbles really fast three times in one bar

EDIT: I think I hear a boost in resonance, which (since adding higher frequencies) should make the pitch fill more space in the lfo, giving a clearer wobble.
EDIT (again): I tried the resonance thing and it didnt work...hmmm

Re: Clear Fast Wobble?

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:04 am
by TheBrownie
Uhh...try modulating the low and high frequencies at that point to make the highs go up a little and the lows lower? Dunno, just guessing.

Re: Clear Fast Wobble?

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:34 am
by lyons238
sounds like a normal fast wobble to me. it doesnt sound anymore clear than a normal one to me

Re: Clear Fast Wobble?

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:35 am
by jrisreal
lyons238 wrote:sounds like a normal fast wobble to me. it doesnt sound anymore clear than a normal one to me
exactly, but when I try to wobble like that, it just doesnt even sound like a wobble, its too fast for the waveform that I'm wobbling

Re: Clear Fast Wobble?

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:07 am
by lyons238
jrisreal wrote:
lyons238 wrote:sounds like a normal fast wobble to me. it doesnt sound anymore clear than a normal one to me
exactly, but when I try to wobble like that, it just doesnt even sound like a wobble, its too fast for the waveform that I'm wobbling
wanna load up an example of what your talking about?

Re: Clear Fast Wobble?

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:10 am
by jrisreal
TheBrownie wrote:Uhh...try modulating the low and high frequencies at that point to make the highs go up a little and the lows lower? Dunno, just guessing.
That worked! Thanks man now I can wobble fast :corndance:

Re: Clear Fast Wobble?

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 5:55 am
by hifi
jrisreal wrote:
Astral wrote:Be specific as to which your actually talking about, talking about one specific wobble in Datsik and Excisions sea of wobbles is a needle in a haystack situation.

its about 0:57-0:58 in to the video...the bass wobbles really fast three times in one bar

EDIT: I think I hear a boost in resonance, which (since adding higher frequencies) should make the pitch fill more space in the lfo, giving a clearer wobble.
EDIT (again): I tried the resonance thing and it didnt work...hmmm
maybe it's the certain bassline or sound that when at a fast lfo rate it may perceive to your ears to sound that "clean" different with each sound duh

Re: Clear Fast Wobble?

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:22 am
by jrisreal
Hypefiend wrote:
jrisreal wrote:
Astral wrote:Be specific as to which your actually talking about, talking about one specific wobble in Datsik and Excisions sea of wobbles is a needle in a haystack situation.

its about 0:57-0:58 in to the video...the bass wobbles really fast three times in one bar

EDIT: I think I hear a boost in resonance, which (since adding higher frequencies) should make the pitch fill more space in the lfo, giving a clearer wobble.
EDIT (again): I tried the resonance thing and it didnt work...hmmm
maybe it's the certain bassline or sound that when at a fast lfo rate it may perceive to your ears to sound that "clean" different with each sound duh
thanks for trying to help man, but problem already solved :D

Re: Clear Fast Wobble?

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 9:00 am
by jrisreal
Hola

Re: Clear Fast Wobble?

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:54 pm
by melodium747
How did you fix it? Just curious.

Re: Clear Fast Wobble?

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:32 pm
by jrisreal
melodium747 wrote:How did you fix it? Just curious.
I did what @TheBrownie said to do and added emphasis to the high frequencies when the bass wobbles fast.

Re: Clear Fast Wobble?

Posted: Sun Mar 20, 2011 6:03 pm
by melodium747
oh ok cool well good! glad ts fixed :-)

Re: Clear Fast Wobble?

Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:30 am
by DJ Crackle
interesting fix, never thought of that

Re: Clear Fast Wobble?

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 1:14 am
by jrisreal
DJ Crackle wrote:interesting fix, never thought of that
Well it actually does make sense, since the higher frequencies vibrate quicker than lower frequencies. SO when you make them louder, more of the "bass" can fit inside of the faster wobble

Re: Clear Fast Wobble?

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:25 pm
by serox
jrisreal wrote:
melodium747 wrote:How did you fix it? Just curious.
I did what @TheBrownie said to do and added emphasis to the high frequencies when the bass wobbles fast.
How did you go about doing this then?

Re: Clear Fast Wobble?

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 3:28 am
by jrisreal
serox wrote:
jrisreal wrote:
melodium747 wrote:How did you fix it? Just curious.
I did what @TheBrownie said to do and added emphasis to the high frequencies when the bass wobbles fast.
How did you go about doing this then?
add an eq but keep the eq offline (muted, disabled, whatever) until the fast wobble happens, then turn it on while it wobbles and then turn it off again