Hey everybody, this isn't dubstep related but this is my go to forum for technical stuff, basically just wondering for any production tips on making jacking house, with specific regards to tempo, structure and getting twisted sounding synth leads. thanks everyone!
heres a specific example of jackin house at its finest :
Re: Non dubstep production help
Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 3:50 pm
by paravrais
Well it's about 125bpm, rest should be fairly self explanatory really. Lot's of compression on the drums. Sounds like there's some portamento on the main lead. Most of the synths seem to be lowpassed quite heavily. Dunno what else you wanna know?
Re: Non dubstep production help
Posted: Mon May 30, 2011 4:51 pm
by EDN
Similar construction to dubstep from what I can tell. Nice swung 4x4 beat, stabs instead of wubs... (use Saw down lfo setting instead of sine wave).
Builds are pretty similar (whitenoise wooshes, sliced vox). Kick is very bassy and the other little bass bits are sidechained to it. Seems to pan around with some white noise stabs, but quite subtly and only every so often.
If you use ableton or have anything similar on your daw use the "groove pool" it basically imprints a groove on midi and sampled drums, or have a look at some of the old MPC grooves, the swing is quite similar to some hip hop.
I suggest you just start doing it and see what comes out.
Re: Non dubstep production help
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 10:55 am
by MikkiFunk
I'm a House producer, but it makes no difference what kind of music you make or whatever, at the end of the day, if you want to start making tracks like this, you need to start doing it a lot.
Spend a lot of time trying to emulate the sounds and drum tracks you hear in these tunes. That's how I got good at making a particular style of house (early 90's house to be exact) -- just picking all those old tracks I love apart; 'how did he do that', 'what hi hats/ closed hats did he use to get that groove, where did he put them and why?' etc.
The main thing for me with House is groove. You don't need every element in your track to be swung, some tracks with be really driven and energetic, some tracks will be groovier 'stomper' kind of tracks, but you need to find that groove somewhere, whether its in a busy percussion track filled with off beat claps/ snares/ bongos etc, or chopped vocal samples placed offbeat to groove the track out.
Dont make the tracks to fast either, its a general rule of mine that the faster you make a track the less groove it has. Take DnB for example, the music is just so fast that there isn't enough space between each hit to establish a groove. House at 124 bpm though, is perfect. Most of my funkier house stuff I have at 126 bpm, but recently with some of the deeper more soulful stuff I just have it at 124 bpm. If the groove in your track is good and serves its purpose, the track will sound a good 1-2 bpm faster than it actually is.
So yeah, practice practice practice, mess about, find out how people did a sound or a drum pattern etc, and get learning those little things they've done. E.g. When I make a track, I never rely on the quantise or 'groove' function in my quantisation options, I just mess about with hi hats/ closed hat placement and percussion hit placement to get a groove going myself... That way I now know where to put a certain sound or hit in the bar to create a certain groove, if I dont I end up working it out within 5 minutes easily. If i relied on quantise and groove settings, I don't believe I would be that good at doing that, as I would have been used to relying on the computer to do it.
Re: Non dubstep production help
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 12:18 pm
by Basic A
4x4 drums...
The synths though... stick to simpl-ish waveforms, and sidechain everything to hell and back.
movement/twisty-ness... Resonant filterbanks on everything, particularly drums and lead lines. Sweep them like mad every 4/8 bars.
Re: Non dubstep production help
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:24 am
by RmoniK
way to rape a nice song
Re: Non dubstep production help
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 11:29 am
by gage
MikkiFunk wrote:it makes no difference what kind of music you make or whatever, at the end of the day, if you want to start making tracks like this, you need to start doing it a lot.