is there an easy way to get the key of an acapella?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 12:12 am
by VirtualMark
hey, i was wondering what everyone does when using vocals. i'm not from a musical background and the music side of things is what i struggle with most. so when adding vocals i have no idea what notes they're in. any advice on this?
Re: is there an easy way to get the key of an acapella?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 12:20 am
by amphibian
play some notes on a piano until it sounds like it's in key this only comes with practise and training your ear.
Re: is there an easy way to get the key of an acapella?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 1:35 am
by dubesteppe
an eisier way would be with a program that can detect the tune of it. melodyne works well
Re: is there an easy way to get the key of an acapella?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 2:01 am
by amidoinitrite
Rapid Evolution?
Re: is there an easy way to get the key of an acapella?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 2:42 am
by djdawson
You can do this easily in fl studio. You have to load the vocals in edison, then find the dump score to piano. It will then try to put the vocals into single notes on the piano roll. You can then open up the notes, and see what scale the vocals are in, everything after that is easy
Re: is there an easy way to get the key of an acapella?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 3:09 am
by ajfa
If you can't work out what key an acapella is in.... You prob should work on some 'real' music as practice first, otherwise you'll probably end up making atonal crap. IMO... Once you've trained your ear a little, figuring out the key using a piano will take you a matter of seconds.
Re: is there an easy way to get the key of an acapella?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 4:11 am
by MikkiFunk
I'm not sure if it determines the exact key of the vocal as some vocals are in 1 or 2 different keys but... Get a string preset up, play in a higher register like 3rd or 4th octave up your keyboard, and find the note that you can play all the way through the vocal, or the original track, without going 'out of key'. Whatever note that is I guess would be the key of the vocal.
Re: is there an easy way to get the key of an acapella?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 10:31 am
by benjam
Just google it, for example : lady gaga just dance tempo key
It came up as first result
Re: is there an easy way to get the key of an acapella?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 1:24 pm
by FuzionDubstep
I have a program called 'mixedinkey' you basically add a folder or file to it and it tells you the key for all of them and also allows you to change the key
Re: is there an easy way to get the key of an acapella?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 1:52 pm
by VirtualMark
hey thanks for the replies. i've used some of the software mentioned but i was never too sure how accurate they were. sounds like i'm kinda on the right track from the suggestions here, hopefully my ear will develop and i'll be able to tell easier.
Re: is there an easy way to get the key of an acapella?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 2:17 pm
by Sparxy
Just use your ears! If your note sounds the same as the vocal, then it is. It really is that simple... is it not??
Re: is there an easy way to get the key of an acapella?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 5:40 pm
by victor w
everyone's given good advice above ie play notes on your piano or searching google, but to be honest if it's a bit of a task to find the key by yourself, you probably shouldn't be doing any remixes until your ears are more trained. if in fact you are doing a remix or anything like that.
Re: is there an easy way to get the key of an acapella?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:21 pm
by VirtualMark
actually i find remixing way easier than producing my own tracks. its just when i use vocals on their own its sometimes hard to fit them in so they sound good. practice practice lol
Re: is there an easy way to get the key of an acapella?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:30 pm
by Rekah
could you use a tuner like the 1 thats built into logic? ive used it on other musical things on it works fine ive not tried it on vocals though
Re: is there an easy way to get the key of an acapella?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 8:04 pm
by VirtualMark
actually i think i downloaded a guitar tuning vst a while back, i'll give that a go
Re: is there an easy way to get the key of an acapella?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 8:12 pm
by Rekah
yeah thats the same thing i think mate, i dont know why i didnt just try it myself and tell you haha
Re: is there an easy way to get the key of an acapella?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 8:17 pm
by Rekah
it tells you all the notes thats being hit but you can work out whats the key of that i think or i may be wrong in saying this, isnt the key the root note of whats being picked up the most, in the acapella i used mainly G carried on coming up prominently between all the other notes
i hope this makes sense i need to stop replying when ive been drinking and smoking as nothing that i write seems to make sense to me
Re: is there an easy way to get the key of an acapella?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 8:24 pm
by zerbaman
Does key make any difference?
I mean, if you're uninspired, knowing what key it's in wouldn't really fix that would it?
Re: is there an easy way to get the key of an acapella?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 8:40 pm
by VirtualMark
well surely i'd need to know the key of the vocals so i know what notes i can use with it?
Re: is there an easy way to get the key of an acapella?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 8:48 pm
by 3za
VirtualMark wrote:well surely i'd need to know the key of the vocals so i know what notes i can use with it?
Yeah that how music works
P.S. If you can't remix like these guys, don't fucking bother...