Reason Problem

[Skratch]

Hey guys, i have a problem with reason. Im editing the lfo automation but when i put it to 3/16 it "skips", listen to the sample i have, and any help would be great.

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[Dublicious]

That's just the premise of automating in Reason, it fucks up sometimes, best bet is to bounce the 3/16 and just sample it into the mix mate

[rubiconguava]

or turn off tempo sync and automate it, that gets rid of the skipping, then you just have to work out where 3/16 is on the knob

[lyons238]

Try both. I find that sampling the wobbles works nice cuz then u can load it up into audacity or if you have record and chop the wobble just how you want it.

[brettheaslewood]

try actually drawing in the automation instead.
hold ALT and click on frequency.

then under your note lane your get the automation bar.
open that up hit W then draw in your automation.

don't forget to change, *insert forgotten word*, to change how many control points you can add per bar (sorta thing)



apologies for the terrible use of technical language there


edit - i think its that button anyway, can't remember without being able to use the program right now

[AllNightDayDream]

Yeah I think it's a timing thing on your automation. Draw it in and make it more precise.

[ascent]

if you have spare cpu you can put your synths into a combi and duplicate it, play the first part with one and the second with the other, that way there is no skipping between lfo speeds

[Skratch]

if you have spare cpu you can put your synths into a combi and duplicate it, play the first part with one and the second with the other, that way there is no skipping between lfo speeds

Actually thats how i did the sample. Still skipped

[-[2]DAY_-]

which synth... subtractor and maelstrom LFOs aren't able to be key-triggered afaik. They're just freewheeling kinda, just cycling constantly so you don't always catch the beginning of the wavecycle

Thor has key-trig on both LFOs. If your sound is coming from another synth, you can combine it with an instance of Thor, and use Thor's LFO's to modulate the other synths parameters via CV cables. That way, the combinator as a whole will allow you to modulate subtractor or maelstrom with key-triggered LFOs.

[Fused Productions]

I like automating the LFO the best. Just set the snap to how fast you want your wobble to be, and when you want the wobblespeed to change, also change the snap to how fast you want it to be This way you can get your own wobbles by adding small turns and shit or making the downfall steeper than the rise and so on.

[knell]

which synth... subtractor and maelstrom LFOs aren't able to be key-triggered afaik. They're just freewheeling kinda, just cycling constantly so you don't always catch the beginning of the wavecycle

Thor has key-trig on both LFOs. If your sound is coming from another synth, you can combine it with an instance of Thor, and use Thor's LFO's to modulate the other synths parameters via CV cables. That way, the combinator as a whole will allow you to modulate subtractor or maelstrom with key-triggered LFOs.

this is more than likely your problem. i've had to re-write entire parts of songs to make a subtractor's LFO line up on the sequencer...

normally dont even bother with LFOs on Sub/Mal.... why oh why didn't they add a keytrig

[Skratch]

How would i go about CV Wiring?

[-[2]DAY_-]

it's really no big deal you should just combine it with a Thor... if it's already part of a combinator, create a Thor INSIDE the combi. important that it's inside the same combi, so that midi trigger acts on both synths. However, Thor's audio outputs need not be connected to anything (unless you want to add its oscillators to the mix).

so, instantiate Thor, Press TAB.
Drag CV output 1 from Thor into Filter cutoff on the back of subtractor/maelstrom. Turn those destination knobs to full or near-full (Because the amount will be adjusted later from the front end on Thor's mod matrix.)
Press TAB again, so front end is showing. On Thor, select LFO 1 --> CV Output 1. Adjust amount to taste. activate keytrig on Thor's LFO.


done!


there's mad different things you can do once you've pried back the lid on Reason. For instance, you can take modulators from subtractor or malestrom (think maelstrom's mods or subtractors's envelopes), and bring them back into Thor via CV INputs. then you could maybe tell Thor to scale the amount of CV output by what's coming in the CV input. Result is, Thor will wobble subtractor's filter at a depth that is varying based on subtractor's envelope.


see, you don't need to use Thor's oscillators to make use of its powerful brain! try it

[-[2]DAY_-]

you will also have to make sure you put the automation on Thor's LFO, not the other synth's. you can right click and create an independent sequencer track for Thor. not sure if you need to do that first before creating the automation lane for its LFO. i forget, lol sorry

[Fused Productions]

it's really no big deal you should just combine it with a Thor... if it's already part of a combinator, create a Thor INSIDE the combi. important that it's inside the same combi, so that midi trigger acts on both synths. However, Thor's audio outputs need not be connected to anything (unless you want to add its oscillators to the mix).

so, instantiate Thor, Press TAB.
Drag CV output 1 from Thor into Filter cutoff on the back of subtractor/maelstrom. Turn those destination knobs to full or near-full (Because the amount will be adjusted later from the front end on Thor's mod matrix.)
Press TAB again, so front end is showing. On Thor, select LFO 1 --> CV Output 1. Adjust amount to taste. activate keytrig on Thor's LFO.


done!


there's mad different things you can do once you've pried back the lid on Reason. For instance, you can take modulators from subtractor or malestrom (think maelstrom's mods or subtractors's envelopes), and bring them back into Thor via CV INputs. then you could maybe tell Thor to scale the amount of CV output by what's coming in the CV input. Result is, Thor will wobble subtractor's filter at a depth that is varying based on subtractor's envelope.


see, you don't need to use Thor's oscillators to make use of its powerful brain! try it

Dude what the fuck!
How much time did you spend figuring that out?! Will have to try it, thanks!

[-[2]DAY_-]

about 5 years lol. spend enough time behind Reason racks, and your mind will come up with something useful

The great thing, i think, is that the next guy will have some totally different routing scheme cranking out similar results.... this is why Reaosn is the best VST around. almost totally modular

[monte-m]

about 5 years lol. spend enough time behind Reason racks, and your mind will come up with something useful

The great thing, i think, is that the next guy will have some totally different routing scheme cranking out similar results.... this is why Reaosn is the best VST around. almost totally modular

Ya I used reason for the first time the other week collabing with one of my buddys. Made a reese in subtractor but hated the LFO, and I had read on here about people using subtractor routed to Thor's LFO instead. I figured a way to route the audio from subtractor to thor, and came up with some really cool modulation that way! It was a lot harder than what you described, but a lot of fun to figure out. Made me want reason, and made my buddy go

[-[2]DAY_-]

the only thing about that is we find that audio inputs only work when heading directly into filter 3. filter 1 and 2 are dedicated to Thor's osc's. bummer. I think maelstrom's filters sound best (don't ask me why i just do). And its audio inputs are much more straightfoward, you just plug into them and it comes out the main outs. I end up using Thor's LFOs to modulate malestrom's filters on audio coming from Subtractor osc. sometimes.... or some combinations of them. Love combinator, love reason. all about the hybrid synth combis.

[Skratch]

the only thing about that is we find that audio inputs only work when heading directly into filter 3. filter 1 and 2 are dedicated to Thor's osc's. bummer. I think maelstrom's filters sound best (don't ask me why i just do). And its audio inputs are much more straightfoward, you just plug into them and it comes out the main outs. I end up using Thor's LFOs to modulate malestrom's filters on audio coming from Subtractor osc. sometimes.... or some combinations of them. Love combinator, love reason. all about the hybrid synth combis.

Yeah sadly the filter wave form i was using in maelstrom wasn't in thor, but hey, the CV wiring did the trick