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Music and Math

Post by Phase Down » Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:28 pm

Just published a article about how music and math get together, hope you guys can get something out of it..

You can read it right at the top first article on http://www.defineaudio.com

Please tell me if anything is wrong, but most importantly please tell me if you enjoyed the read :)

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Re: Music and Math

Post by Kochari » Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:29 pm

My name is Dom and I like making ambientish music and drinking tea. Nice to meet you.

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Re: Music and Math

Post by MoonUnit » Sat Jun 25, 2011 6:35 pm

I wanted to start a topic on this subject because my friend (The Frim - who is an infrequent visitor here) likes to take a look at some of his favorite tracks and figure out the wobble patterns and I wonder if the producers themselves actually make sure everything is mathematically correct or if its more arbitrary than that.

Like datsik's hyrdraulic pattern is something along the lines of 1-2/1-2/1-2-3-4/1-2/1-2/1-2-3-4 in the first couple main phrases (not taking into consideration the LFO speeds)

if that makes sense

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Re: Music and Math

Post by dameonxz » Sat Jun 25, 2011 6:58 pm

MoonUnit wrote:I wanted to start a topic on this subject because my friend (The Frim - who is an infrequent visitor here) likes to take a look at some of his favorite tracks and figure out the wobble patterns and I wonder if the producers themselves actually make sure everything is mathematically correct or if its more arbitrary than that.

Like datsik's hyrdraulic pattern is something along the lines of 1-2/1-2/1-2-3-4/1-2/1-2/1-2-3-4 in the first couple main phrases (not taking into consideration the LFO speeds)

if that makes sense
Not really, ;-) but I'd like to hear you elaborate and kinda explain about what you mean "mathmatically correct". Also if you try and explain the datsik thing, what pattern do you mean?

OP: I liked the article, I'd like to see some other math applications
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Re: Music and Math

Post by Phase Down » Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:46 pm

I dont really understand the datsik hydraulic pattern but thanks for reading guys, math and music production is an interesting subject and will help you understand other things from a different view.

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Re: Music and Math

Post by MoonUnit » Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:52 pm

dameonxz wrote:
MoonUnit wrote:I wanted to start a topic on this subject because my friend (The Frim - who is an infrequent visitor here) likes to take a look at some of his favorite tracks and figure out the wobble patterns and I wonder if the producers themselves actually make sure everything is mathematically correct or if its more arbitrary than that.

Like datsik's hyrdraulic pattern is something along the lines of 1-2/1-2/1-2-3-4/1-2/1-2/1-2-3-4 in the first couple main phrases (not taking into consideration the LFO speeds)

if that makes sense
Not really, ;-) but I'd like to hear you elaborate and kinda explain about what you mean "mathmatically correct". Also if you try and explain the datsik thing, what pattern do you mean?

OP: I liked the article, I'd like to see some other math applications
After listening to the track again, what I mean't to say is that its the pattern of call and response. When I listen to the song, that's how I would count it in my head. The first two beats of the drop are answered by two different wobble beats, which are similar to and lead into the remaining four beats of the 2 bar pattern. The 8 beat pattern then repeats with little variation (and a small fill at the end of the 8 beats) to create a 16 beat pattern. There is then basically a replica of the pattern created with some switch ups to create a perfect 32 beat pattern with a larger fill at the end. I hope this is more clear, I had to think about it for a second. So basically you get a 32 beat pattern with the multiples of 32 creating little patterns as well AND the fills end on multiples of 32.

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Re: Music and Math

Post by Aufnahmewindwuschel » Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:54 pm

so how do you explain that :roll:
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Re: Music and Math

Post by dameonxz » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:34 pm

^ whoa

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Re: Music and Math

Post by Neds Newt » Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:59 pm

Great article, great website. I'm enjoying their other articles. I'll definitely give all those a good read soon.

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Re: Music and Math

Post by skimpi » Sat Jun 25, 2011 9:44 pm

of course music is math, its heavily time based, which is math. rhythm is number so its math, time signatures are math. it would be pretty stupid to think that music didnt have anything to do with math
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Re: Music and Math

Post by drooka » Sat Jun 25, 2011 11:15 pm

going to take some time to read through this, looks really interesting.

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Re: Music and Math

Post by Aufnahmewindwuschel » Sun Jun 26, 2011 12:17 am

just wanted to share the incredible coolness of this track to the world :corndance: :corndance: :corndance: :corndance: :corndance: :corndance: :corndance: :corndance: :corndance:
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Re: Music and Math

Post by Phase Down » Sun Jun 26, 2011 3:10 pm

Thanks a bunch guys, writing on the toilet, man what a great spot :lol:

Anyway this was more of an introduction I would say, math and music is a funny and complicated subject, that we will publish more articles about.

I try to publish at least a couple of articles a week, so keep looking, also if you are looking for a bit of promotion or wanting to put out some free tracks, I would be happy to publish them on the website! Either email at defineaudio@gmail.com or follow twitter.com/defineaudio (just made it).

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