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Mear Bace
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Intonation

Post by Mear Bace » Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:07 am

I was just reading up on Intonation: Just, Equal, and Pythagorean. I don't really understand, does this only apply to real world instruments? How does it effect computer musicians, and why does Cubase have tuning options.

Can somebody explain the purpose? D:

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Re: Intonation

Post by Manic Harmonic » Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:26 pm

correct me if I'm wrong, but I've never heard of it applied to anything except a stringed instrument. I've been playing guitar for a long time, and I've always known intonation as being how in-tune the guitar sounds as you go up the fretboard. meaning if your intonation is off, an e on the 12th fret might be sharp or flat. I'm assuming the tuning option you're talking about would just be changing how many cents or semitones the pitch is shifted on that particular intstrument. although i've never used cubase.
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Re: Intonation

Post by buttock » Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:30 am

this a little bit more involved. Most western Musik uses equal temperant, which roughly means that an octave is divided into twelve equal frequencies.
Wheras in just intonation the difference in frequency between c and d is not exactly the same as for example g and a. Classical instruments especially brass and reed instruments are normally not equal tempered, thats why classical pieces often have a different "colour" if they are played instead of in a-Minor in e-Minor for example.

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Re: Intonation

Post by Manic Harmonic » Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:37 am

So would this mean that the setting he was talking about would give a different feel depending on the key?
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Re: Intonation

Post by buttock » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:30 am

yes, but results will be subtle

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Re: Intonation

Post by Manic Harmonic » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:54 pm

subtle is the way to go. any way to do this in logic?
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Re: Intonation

Post by therapist » Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:57 pm

Manic Harmonic wrote:subtle is the way to go. any way to do this in logic?
I don't think it's really an issue for programmed music. Multi-sampled orchestral instruments (of the right kind) may have slight differences in tuning, enough to make them sound slightly different in different keys, is that what you're trying to achieve?

When you say 'Cubase has tuning options' do you mean intonation or just pitch? They're not the same.

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Re: Intonation

Post by Manic Harmonic » Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:57 am

hm... maybe i should look into my kontakt library more.
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Re: Intonation

Post by amphibian » Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:29 am

Manic Harmonic wrote:subtle is the way to go. any way to do this in logic?
Detuning. Good luck ;)
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