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Various ways to get fat 808-style kicks? (e.g. ramadanman)
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:51 am
by Balls of Steel
i've been trying my hand at basslines consisting of 808-style subby kicks, like ramadanman, boddika, and various others use, but i am often dissatisfied with them, so i'm wondering how other people obtain good, fat subs that also have enough definition.
obviously you can just sample a good one (i can't seem to find many of these, though...most good 808 kick samples i've found are short punchy ones, not longer ones with a nice tail). or you can layer a punchier kick with a simple sine wave you synthesize yourself with ADSR to taste...this second method i've found gets this weird sort of phasing effect for me, though, where the attack sounds a little off.
so i guess my problems so far have been either a) the kicks sound too muddy, per this example:
Soundcloud
or b) they have this weird phasing sort of clicky effect, per this example:
Soundcloud
any ideas?
Re: Various ways to get fat 808-style kicks? (e.g. ramadanma
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 8:55 am
by jrisreal
Soundcloud wrote:Oops, looks like we can't find that page!
Re: Various ways to get fat 808-style kicks? (e.g. ramadanma
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:09 am
by Ongelegen
Balls of Steel wrote:i can't seem to find many of these, though...most good 808 kick samples i've found are short punchy ones, not longer ones with a nice tail
Goldbaby
Re: Various ways to get fat 808-style kicks? (e.g. ramadanma
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:17 am
by Electric_Head
Re: Various ways to get fat 808-style kicks? (e.g. ramadanma
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:32 am
by Balls of Steel
woah thanks for those samples electric! i'm sure that'll be very helpful...
links fixed. i'm still curious to know why it has this weird sound at the attack stage for the second track.
Re: Various ways to get fat 808-style kicks? (e.g. ramadanma
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:33 am
by darigan
What a goldmine. I was looking to expand my drum machine library
Re: Various ways to get fat 808-style kicks? (e.g. ramadanma
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:44 am
by vertx
Boddika has a real Tr-808 so I'm guessing he's using that a lot of the time.
Other than that all I can add is using good samples - goldbaby do a few different 808 variations (vinyl, tape, put through other analogue bits) but the best ones you have to pay for...
Processing that has helped me with 808s in the past includes compression, parallel compression, saturation, parallel saturation/distortion and of course EQ.
All this plus correct levels are the way to go short of paying big $$ for a real Tr-808.
Search the forum there are a few other threads on this.
Re: Various ways to get fat 808-style kicks? (e.g. ramadanma
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:51 am
by Electric_Head
shape the sound if you`re not happy.
Re: Various ways to get fat 808-style kicks? (e.g. ramadanma
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:53 am
by Electric_Head
vertx wrote:Boddika has a real Tr-808 so I'm guessing he's using that a lot of the time.
Other than that all I can add is using good samples - goldbaby do a few different 808 variations (vinyl, tape, put through other analogue bits) but the best ones you have to pay for...
Processing that has helped me with 808s in the past includes compression, parallel compression, saturation, parallel saturation/distortion and of course EQ.
All this plus correct levels are the way to go short of paying big $$ for a real Tr-808.
Search the forum there are a few other threads on this.
That`s why I posted The Machine.
They are direct from the 808.
Re: Various ways to get fat 808-style kicks? (e.g. ramadanma
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 9:56 am
by grooki
I don't really want to download a whole gig just for some 808s
Re: Various ways to get fat 808-style kicks? (e.g. ramadanma
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:10 am
by Electric_Head
It`s more than just 808.
read the the blog
he also has a shootout of the top 5 drum machines
Re: Various ways to get fat 808-style kicks? (e.g. ramadanma
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:18 am
by Electric_Head
Just give me a sec.
I`m uploading the 808 samples.
I`ll send a link in a sec.
Re: Various ways to get fat 808-style kicks? (e.g. ramadanma
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:22 am
by Depone
Why dont you synthesize your own?
That way you have complete control over the sound.
Get a sine wave on an oscilator, and then modulate its pitch with an envelope, Its really easy to do this on any synth. Also add some saturation, kinda tape compress it with psp vintage warmer and your onto a winner.
Re: Various ways to get fat 808-style kicks? (e.g. ramadanma
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:27 am
by Electric_Head
Re: Various ways to get fat 808-style kicks? (e.g. ramadanma
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:32 am
by Electric_Head
Depone wrote:Why dont you synthesize your own?
That way you have complete control over the sound.
Get a sine wave on an oscilator, and then modulate its pitch with an envelope, Its really easy to do this on any synth. Also add some saturation, kinda tape compress it with psp vintage warmer and your onto a winner.
exactomundo
Re: Various ways to get fat 808-style kicks? (e.g. ramadanma
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:35 am
by skwiggo
pitch envelope can add greater punch to an 808 sample
also alter the attack time for the sample if you dont want the click at the start
Re: Various ways to get fat 808-style kicks? (e.g. ramadanma
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:20 am
by vertx
There's also Nepheton, the 808 emulation.
http://www.d16.pl/index.php?menu=153
Re: Various ways to get fat 808-style kicks? (e.g. ramadanma
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:39 am
by grooki
Re: Various ways to get fat 808-style kicks? (e.g. ramadanma
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:56 am
by Electric_Head
spread the love
Re: Various ways to get fat 808-style kicks? (e.g. ramadanma
Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 7:33 pm
by COLTMAN
I created my own 808 bass preset in Massive, if you want it let me know
