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I was flicking through tv the other day, and hit upon the perfect way to explain what American popular culture has done to Dubstep.
My example is the show Gordon Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares. Watch an episode of the U.K version, then the U.S version. note the differences. Then you'll understand.

another comparable analogy is to watch The Office UK and then The Office USA. The UK version is pretty subtle and edgy with originality and distinct atmosphere...the US version does a shitty rip off of the UK version and makes it totally obnoxious but still likable at the same time. pretty accurate IMO.

i watched all 7 seasons of the us office, because im amaerican, then thought i would watch the uk version, and i gave up after the 2nd episode cause i couldnt understand their accents. lol. arent you american lyons?

RandoRando wrote:i watched all 7 seasons of the us office, because im amaerican, then thought i would watch the uk version, and i gave up after the 2nd episode cause i couldnt understand their accents. lol. arent you american lyons?

yeah im american. i cant watch the uk office either. im just saying its more original and clever. i dont get half their jokes either.

my friend at college is kind of a weirdo (kinda just like one of those socially akward kids) but he loves dubstep and smokes mad weed and loves beer and food. anyways somehow this kid made me watch the uk version and he loves it but said u gotta know british humor...

im canadian, but all my favourite shows and movies are british it seems. british humor and british filmmaking is far superior when it comes to content. same can be said with american vs uk dubstep. uk dubstep has real content and artistic merit. all i hear in skirrlecks and excizin is really just aural stimulation.

thats not really fair to group all american artists together like that :/

just because you suck at finding good producers here doesnt mean there arent any


--also uk office had 14 episodes
us office has 152

can you guess which one is more successful?

nylle wrote:--also uk office had 14 episodes
us office has 152

can you guess which one is more successful?

Quality vs. Quantity - just because there is more of something, doesn't necessarily make it a superior product.

Lectric wrote:im canadian, but all my favourite shows and movies are british it seems. british humor and british filmmaking is far superior when it comes to content. same can be said with american vs uk dubstep. uk dubstep has real content and artistic merit. all i hear in skirrlecks and excizin is really just aural stimulation.

Excision isnt American?

The difference is that UK humour and US humour is different. UK humour requires an indirect joke where the audience has to work it out in their heads whereas US humour is usually one liners handed to you followed by canned laughter. I guess it's easier to write one liners hence the large number of episodes. That's just my interpretation though,. I like a lot of US TV. Maybe the one liners are 'filth' whereas the indirect are dark womps.

wub wrote:

nylle wrote:--also uk office had 14 episodes
us office has 152

can you guess which one is more successful?

Quality vs. Quantity - just because there is more of something, doesn't necessarily make it a superior product.

never said it was superior
on the issue of which one is funnier, this shit is purely subjective.

however, if the uk version was a superior product, ricky gervais and stephen merchant probably would have kept it going instead of dropping it and producing the US show

ofc no one even mentions the other 5 versions of the show...


how popular television and pop culture has anything to do with where the good dubstep artists are at is fucking BEYOND me lol guess i should watch more tv instead of listening to music

nylle wrote:

wub wrote:

nylle wrote:--also uk office had 14 episodes
us office has 152

can you guess which one is more successful?

Quality vs. Quantity - just because there is more of something, doesn't necessarily make it a superior product.

never said it was superior
on the issue of which one is funnier, this shit is purely subjective.

however, if the uk version was a superior product, ricky gervais and stephen merchant probably would have kept it going instead of dropping it and producing the US show

Why would they have kept doing it? Part of creation, and this applies to all artistry, is to know when you should step away from the finished product.

Cheeky wrote:I was flicking through tv the other day, and hit upon the perfect way to explain what American popular culture has done to Dubstep.
My example is the show Gordon Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares. Watch an episode of the U.K version, then the U.S version. note the differences. Then you'll understand.

You do realize there's a bit more to that than you think. People like Rusko, even Coki were pushing "the future" of the dubstep sound really early on. Coki was one of the first to create wobble-heavy tunes. Rusko, has even admitted that people just kept asking him to play the hardest, loudest stuff he had - so his productions went in that direction. America isn't entirely at fault, but producers like Antiserum, Excision, Babylon System.etc. have all contributed to a heavier sound, and the sub-genre Big Beat is what really started getting Dubstep noticed.

wub wrote:

nylle wrote:

wub wrote:

nylle wrote:--also uk office had 14 episodes
us office has 152

can you guess which one is more successful?

Quality vs. Quantity - just because there is more of something, doesn't necessarily make it a superior product.

never said it was superior
on the issue of which one is funnier, this shit is purely subjective.

however, if the uk version was a superior product, ricky gervais and stephen merchant probably would have kept it going instead of dropping it and producing the US show

Why would they have kept doing it? Part of creation, and this applies to all artistry, is to know when you should step away from the finished product.

yea ricky gervais and stephen merchant made the UK office...they stepped away from their finished product...then then hopped over to the US and began the US version

anyway the characters in both versions are pretty similar--right down to their personalities and mannerisms. one of them just ran long enough to achieve syndication .........

but yeah this is a dubstep forum so i guess we could talk about this in a different forum

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my favorite label right now--owned by an american with plenty of american producers as well as british and australian dudes, etc...

except i never listen and go "oh this guy was probably british" cuz thatd be fucking stupid

nylle wrote:

wub wrote:

nylle wrote:

wub wrote:

nylle wrote:--also uk office had 14 episodes
us office has 152

can you guess which one is more successful?

Quality vs. Quantity - just because there is more of something, doesn't necessarily make it a superior product.

never said it was superior
on the issue of which one is funnier, this shit is purely subjective.

however, if the uk version was a superior product, ricky gervais and stephen merchant probably would have kept it going instead of dropping it and producing the US show

Why would they have kept doing it? Part of creation, and this applies to all artistry, is to know when you should step away from the finished product.

yea ricky gervais and stephen merchant made the UK office...they stepped away from their finished product...then then hopped over to the US and began the US version

Therefore enabling them to get more money without comprising their artistic integrity by dragging out the (superior) product for longer than necessary.

nylle wrote:anyway the characters in both versions are pretty similar--right down to their personalities and mannerisms. one of them just ran long enough to achieve syndication .........

Similar, they're identical. The only difference is the actors portraying them. Some of the scens are even carbon copy - the "I'm team leader so I should know first" scene springs to mind. What does the syndication of a series have to do with this?

nylle wrote:but yeah this is a dubstep forum so i guess we could talk about this in a different forum

wub wrote: What does the syndication of a series have to do with this?

idk what does the office have anything to do with dubstep?

or ramsay's kitchen nightmares.........

the more i think about it the dumber this thread seems

nylle wrote:

wub wrote: What does the syndication of a series have to do with this?

idk what does the office have anything to do with dubstep?

or ramsay's kitchen nightmares.........

the more i think about it the dumber this thread seems

We're using UK TV vs. US TV as an analogy.

wub wrote:

nylle wrote:

wub wrote: What does the syndication of a series have to do with this?

idk what does the office have anything to do with dubstep?

or ramsay's kitchen nightmares.........

the more i think about it the dumber this thread seems

We're using UK TV vs. US TV as an analogy.

yeah i know it's retarded isnt it?

nylle wrote:

wub wrote:

nylle wrote:

wub wrote: What does the syndication of a series have to do with this?

idk what does the office have anything to do with dubstep?

or ramsay's kitchen nightmares.........

the more i think about it the dumber this thread seems

We're using UK TV vs. US TV as an analogy.

yeah i know it's retarded isnt it?

Im shocked an intelligent debate even sprung out of this.

Cheeky wrote:

nylle wrote:

wub wrote:

nylle wrote:

wub wrote: What does the syndication of a series have to do with this?

idk what does the office have anything to do with dubstep?

or ramsay's kitchen nightmares.........

the more i think about it the dumber this thread seems

We're using UK TV vs. US TV as an analogy.

yeah i know it's retarded isnt it?

Im shocked an intelligent debate even sprung out of this.

you cheeky bastard...