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Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HELP!!

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:04 pm
by LucazMusik
Hi im having some trouble with my kick drums...
Heres a tune i made last night http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=balzjO7eMv4 .. Ive only been making dubstep for a short period of time so bare with me :w:


& Here is the kind of kick drum i am trying to achieve.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OT5HOomN7k ..
What am i doing wrong? is it the sample/vst he is using that just gives it that fat sound or is he doing something else (Compressing ect)

Sorry i am a total noob but you gotta start somewhere right?

Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:11 pm
by ChadDub
for not producing for a long time, those basses are pretty sick. What'd you use?

and the kick sounds fine to me.

Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:19 pm
by LucazMusik
ChadDub wrote:for not producing for a long time, those basses are pretty sick. What'd you use?

and the kick sounds fine to me.
Thanks man!! I used massive for the bass.
I dunno man ive been told by a few people that my kicks are too weak :/

Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:21 pm
by jrisreal
the tracks sound just the same imo. kick drum is the same. u could try subtle distortion/bitcrushing, increase lows and highs and decrease mids. compression. transient shaping. etc.

Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:23 pm
by ToxicBass
Slight bit of tube distortion.
Route to a bus and add a very short reverb.
Layer a kick that has nice lows with a kick that has nice mid/high end character.

Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:30 pm
by LucazMusik
ToxicBass wrote:Slight bit of tube distortion.
Route to a bus and add a very short reverb.
Layer a kick that has nice lows with a kick that has nice mid/high end character.

So i just route to an fx track & add a short reverb on it? like short decay time or?
& im a massive noob lol im not sure what this lows and highs & mids stuff means
Is it like the low is more of a subby thing where as the high is like a piercing sound? lol that was a poor explanation

*EDIT* i meant my explanation just incase you thought i meant yours lolll :oops:

Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:33 pm
by jrisreal
LucazMusik wrote:
ToxicBass wrote:Slight bit of tube distortion.
Route to a bus and add a very short reverb.
Layer a kick that has nice lows with a kick that has nice mid/high end character.

So i just route to an fx track & add a short reverb on it? like short decay time or?
& im a massive noob lol im not sure what this lows and highs & mids stuff means
Is it like the low is more of a subby thing where as the high is like a piercing sound? lol that was a poor explanation

*EDIT* i meant my explanation just incase you thought i meant yours lolll :oops:
yeah thats it. lows are the in the bass range. highs are in the justin bieber range. and mids are in between.

Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:34 pm
by LucazMusik
jrisreal wrote:
LucazMusik wrote:
ToxicBass wrote:Slight bit of tube distortion.
Route to a bus and add a very short reverb.
Layer a kick that has nice lows with a kick that has nice mid/high end character.

So i just route to an fx track & add a short reverb on it? like short decay time or?
& im a massive noob lol im not sure what this lows and highs & mids stuff means
Is it like the low is more of a subby thing where as the high is like a piercing sound? lol that was a poor explanation

*EDIT* i meant my explanation just incase you thought i meant yours lolll :oops:
yeah thats it. lows are the in the bass range. highs are in the justin bieber range. and mids are in between.
"Justin bieber range" lmfao

Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:53 pm
by Lectric
Layer 3 kicks: 1 in the hihgs, 1 in mids, one subby kick with a long tail. eq them and compress, and transient shape.

Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:07 pm
by LucazMusik
Lectric wrote:Layer 3 kicks: 1 in the hihgs, 1 in mids, one subby kick with a long tail. eq them and compress, and transient shape.
Okay ive just got a transient shaper from schaack audio , is that one any good?

& What kind of eqing would i do , im not very familiar with this stuff yet

Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:10 pm
by jrisreal
did you buy it or get the demo? it looks pretty good to me, but silence one every ten seconds is a no go. try flux bittersweet.

also the eq'ing. well what daw are you in? does it have a native eq? probably so use that one and boost the lows and highs and lower the mids

Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:20 pm
by LucazMusik
jrisreal wrote:did you buy it or get the demo? it looks pretty good to me, but silence one every ten seconds is a no go. try flux bittersweet.

also the eq'ing. well what daw are you in? does it have a native eq? probably so use that one and boost the lows and highs and lower the mids
I got a demo , im using fl studio , where can i get flux bittersweet from?

Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:26 pm
by jrisreal
LucazMusik wrote:
jrisreal wrote:did you buy it or get the demo? it looks pretty good to me, but silence one every ten seconds is a no go. try flux bittersweet.

also the eq'ing. well what daw are you in? does it have a native eq? probably so use that one and boost the lows and highs and lower the mids
I got a demo , im using fl studio , where can i get flux bittersweet from?
just look on google. its free (but for some reason, won't show up in my library >:-(

Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:40 pm
by LucazMusik
jrisreal wrote:
LucazMusik wrote:
jrisreal wrote:did you buy it or get the demo? it looks pretty good to me, but silence one every ten seconds is a no go. try flux bittersweet.

also the eq'ing. well what daw are you in? does it have a native eq? probably so use that one and boost the lows and highs and lower the mids
I got a demo , im using fl studio , where can i get flux bittersweet from?
just look on google. its free (but for some reason, won't show up in my library >:-(
i got it :D , you know you said to turn the highs and lows up and turn the mids down , how much are we talking im failing to understand lol :(
http://imageshack.us/f/29/unlediob.png/ am i doing it completely wrong?

Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:44 pm
by jrisreal
LucazMusik wrote:
jrisreal wrote:
LucazMusik wrote:
jrisreal wrote:did you buy it or get the demo? it looks pretty good to me, but silence one every ten seconds is a no go. try flux bittersweet.

also the eq'ing. well what daw are you in? does it have a native eq? probably so use that one and boost the lows and highs and lower the mids
I got a demo , im using fl studio , where can i get flux bittersweet from?
just look on google. its free (but for some reason, won't show up in my library >:-(
i got it :D , you know you said to turn the highs and lows up and turn the mids down , how much are we talking im failing to understand lol :(
http://imageshack.us/f/29/unlediob.png/ am i doing it completely wrong?
nope thats pretty much right. heres a screenshot of mine. I'm in FL too, but I like to use Reaper's EQ
Image

Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:47 pm
by LucazMusik
jrisreal wrote:
LucazMusik wrote:
jrisreal wrote:
LucazMusik wrote:
jrisreal wrote:did you buy it or get the demo? it looks pretty good to me, but silence one every ten seconds is a no go. try flux bittersweet.

also the eq'ing. well what daw are you in? does it have a native eq? probably so use that one and boost the lows and highs and lower the mids
I got a demo , im using fl studio , where can i get flux bittersweet from?
just look on google. its free (but for some reason, won't show up in my library >:-(
i got it :D , you know you said to turn the highs and lows up and turn the mids down , how much are we talking im failing to understand lol :(
http://imageshack.us/f/29/unlediob.png/ am i doing it completely wrong?
nope thats pretty much right. heres a screenshot of mine. I'm in FL too, but I like to use Reaper's EQ
Image
Thanks so much for taking the time to help me :)
Should i do the same eq settings for my bass too ? or.. & ive installed this flux bittersweet but it doesnt show up when i scan for vsts

Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:02 am
by jrisreal
LucazMusik wrote: Thanks so much for taking the time to help me :)
Should i do the same eq settings for my bass too ? or.. & ive installed this flux bittersweet but it doesnt show up when i scan for vsts
Don't mention it ;-)
For the bass, I would do the opposite, and sidechain the mix of it to the kick drum...but that may be too complicated. If it is, just don't put the eq on the bass.

Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:04 am
by LucazMusik
jrisreal wrote:
LucazMusik wrote: Thanks so much for taking the time to help me :)
Should i do the same eq settings for my bass too ? or.. & ive installed this flux bittersweet but it doesnt show up when i scan for vsts
Don't mention it ;-)
For the bass, I would do the opposite, and sidechain the mix of it to the kick drum...but that may be too complicated. If it is, just don't put the eq on the bass.
I think i know how to sidechain with the peak controller :D again you are a star for helping :U:

Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:21 am
by zerbaman
Want a fat kick?
Feed it bass.

Re: Having trouble getting my kick drum to sound "FAT" , HEL

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:23 am
by LucazMusik
zerbaman wrote:Want a fat kick?
Feed it bass.
Have no idea how to do that LOL ):