<---new producer. quick question

[55stevieboy2010]

hey all

im new to producing (bout 3 weeks) and im at a stage where ive recently downloaded some professionally made samples. (not just vocal samples but like 'swooshes', synths and other kinda weird and wonderful noises.
I know if i use these new sounds in my tracks, my tunes will instantly start to sound more professional however i cant help but feel like im cheating a little bit.Not so much with vocals but more with the other atmospheric/synth noises
Question to you more experienced producers is basically, do you guys use alot of samples like this or do you make each and every 1 yourself?

[Teknicyde]

Make em yourself, id feel dirty using a sampled synth line... Be too afraid someone else would have it...

Basically, sample the percussion, bout it.

[-[2]DAY_-]

if a filter sweep is already made suitable for my track, i'd prob just use it. if it isn't , i'd make my own. It's more fun, you can filter sweep all kinds of sounds to get those swooshes (sampled or synthed). u'r better off working on synthing your own synth stuff imo, you can only get better at it.
Nothing terribly wrong with using em, especially if they're royalty free. You will know, when it's said n done, just how much of your own work u put into a track, so bearing that in mind, all else is irrelevant .. except of course for "does it sound good"

[55stevieboy2010]

well ive just spent 10 mins on a new track and it sounds great. but im not happy cuz it isnt me whos made the synth lol.
Did you guys find it really fuckin hard to find good synths when you were starting out??
personally im trying to make future garage more than dubstep at the mo so im trying to find them kinda joy O kinda synths but struggling to find anything that sounds any good

[3za]

Basically, sample the percussion, bout it.

Not even that, if you got a mic, and a synth you can make anything

If your just starting out, I would say it's cool to use them, but as you learn, and develop you will be able to make that stuff yourself. I got nothing against samples, and there is a art to using them (listen to the sample comps on here), but I do think it's a bit gay when someone just chucks something together with a few things straight out of a sample pack.

Did you guys find it really fuckin hard to find good synths when you were starting out??

Know one ever said, the road would be easy.

[-[2]DAY_-]

a lot of people make tracks based entirely on commercial loop libraries or crappy bootlegs of their mp3 collection. some people program every patch, sample their own percussion, fucking play didgeridoo, build their own synth/preamp/drum, circuitbend a clothes iron to make noises, etc. and there are many of us occupying all the places in between.. The point is to not be the first type of guy. most of us aren't the latter, either which is fine. Just don't be that first bloke, and try to find what you're best at and hone the additional skills u need to highlight your strengths. maybe u have an ear for Djing/ putting together the bigger picture and loop-based production/remixing is for u. maybe u'r feeling the synthing and drum programming.... maybe u dig crates like a boss and nick the niceys off of all kinds of old records, go on a sampling binge and make a track from that.
more likely some combination of it all.
Just do what u can and keep practicing.. especially the stuff u'r not as good at. round out ur skills, find a sound. should take you the better part of a decade. enjoy!

[55stevieboy2010]

got a little question on the side im struggling with. in ableton, when you put a sample in midi and you play it in different notes the higher the note the faster it plays....how do i get it so it playes all the notes in the correct speed??

[benjam]

well ive just spent 10 mins on a new track and it sounds great. but im not happy cuz it isnt me whos made the synth lol.

Youve answered your own question there man. The end result is what counts so use samples is you want but its only yourself youre cheating.

[legend4ry]

Cheating from using samples? My gosh, some of the most amazing music on this planet consists of only using samples..

Its not cheating if your music has 1) depth 2) good production 3) groove.

Look at golden era hiphop 90% of that is all sampled and its timeless music.


Heres the most important lesson to learn.

JUST.WRITE.MUSIC


It doesn't matter if its at a level where it'll sell millions of units if you
like it.

Thats no right and no wrong.

Ive been writing music for about 7 years and I can count the amount of synth patches ive made on hands.

[-[2]DAY_-]

got a little question on the side im struggling with. in ableton, when you put a sample in midi and you play it in different notes the higher the note the faster it plays....how do i get it so it playes all the notes in the correct speed??

You'd have to pitch shift it independently of its length, one by one for each note you want to use and load each sample to its own key on the sampler. I'm not sure how pitch changing is done in ableton but most DAW's can do it. if you can find or make multi samples with different notes already that would be best, cuz pitch shifting can cause artifacts.

I've been told that NI Kontakt can automatically map a sample across the keyboard with the appropriate pitches but without changing its speed. I haven't figured out how to do this, and i dunno if abe's sampler can do it.

[FuzionDubstep]

I'd feel like a dirty prostitute using someone elses sounds. make your own the key to been successful is ... ORIGINALITY
you dig??

[sixth sense]

its not where you takes things from its where you take them to

[legend4ry]

I'd feel like a dirty prostitute using someone elses sounds. make your own the key to been successful is ... ORIGINALITY
you dig??

That doesn't make you original, thats makes you use more synths and sound design than opposed to re-using already recorded music and making it your own.

Also, from the reason logo as your avatar - Its obvious you wouldn't know the beauty of using audio easy and flawlessly so don't blame you for thinking like that.

[FuzionDubstep]

I'd feel like a dirty prostitute using someone elses sounds. make your own the key to been successful is ... ORIGINALITY
you dig??

That doesn't make you original, thats makes you use more synths and sound design than opposed to re-using already recorded music and making it your own.

Also, from the reason logo as your avatar - Its obvious you wouldn't know the beauty of using audio easy and flawlessly so don't blame you for thinking like that.

it is fairly un-original to use someone elses sounds ha ha and well personally I love reason and I can make fairly decent tunes in reason just the same as anyone else so don't be too quick to judge

[legend4ry]

I wasn't denying your music making skills on Reason - I was questioning your logic thinking that unless you make EVERYTHING yourself its not good or original sounding music...Then I realised you're using Reason so you ain't 'really' got a choice but to use synths opposed to samples as its a pain in the arse to get samplers doing what you want in Reason.

And now ive actually listened to your music and your ego fits the style of it.

[55stevieboy2010]

yea not bein funny fusion but jeez that dubstep really aint my idea of good dubstep man. however i tend to agree with ya a little, the track feels more like your own if you make the whole thing from scratch. each to their own tho

[FuzionDubstep]

I just said my music was 'decent' I wouldn't call that a big ego but fair enough. And in reason I think personally its capable of anything another program can do.. personally but at the end of the day no program is 'better' than any other, its personal preference to be fair with you ha.. and @Stevie - it might not be your idea of good dubstep which is completely fair maybe give some more in depth feedback so I can change that in future songs .. other than that though but cool I wouldn't expect to be amazing yet I haven't been producing very long myself and as I'm fairly young I can't afford any decent equipment but this post isn't about me was just saying you should make your own sounds try and find your own style I wasn't expecting to get ganged up against for trying to help lol :/

[-[2]DAY_-]

I'd feel like a dirty prostitute using someone elses sounds. make your own the key to been successful is ... ORIGINALITY
you dig??

So , you invented the square wave right?



lol @ leg, innit. A strictly Reason user who hasn't handled a DAW wouldn't catch what u r on about. glad to see support of sampling. I made a house track last night just from nabbing pieces off this blondie track

yeah i used the drums from the beginning. for the sake of argument, would it be any different for me to use a different kick and play my own 4x4, just to be "original"? Blondie deffo didn't pioneer the 4x4 disco.
if it ain't broke...

[legend4ry]

I love Rapture, when Debbie Raps <33!!

I woulda done so many things to her i would of got arrested - back then.

I'd probably throw a bottle at her now if she came near me in horror.

[Teknicyde]

And in reason I think personally its capable of anything another program can do..

Except working with audio and recording...