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Sub Bass in massive

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:36 pm
by Lectric
heyyo. im just wondering how i can make a straight sub bass in massive. i cant get one that seems to stay undistorted and whatever. do you guys now how to make one?

sorry if repost.
inb4 just google it.

Re: Sub Bass in massive

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:45 pm
by lightshapers
have a play with this. nothing special. you might want to play with the filter, and the attack, decay and release of envelope 4. also most of the macros have been disabled the only one which does anything is 'sublevel'

http://www.mediafire.com/?1g2g7gm33cx8462

use reaktor for my sub now but used to beef that^ patch up with waves RBass plug in

Re: Sub Bass in massive

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:47 pm
by Toolman4
ok ok...please, everyone just let me handle this and don't bombard him with hate :P

Just load a simple basic sine wave in just one oscillator. Adjust the sustain on the amp envelope and away you go. Alternatively, check here for any and all bass related questions FFS!! : http://www.dubstepforum.com/the-bass-th ... 59658.html

Unintentional distortion in sub bass can come from not initializing the synth, having it's gain too high, etc...If you're using an 808 sample, I read somewhere that they are made with white noise, and therefore intentionally made with a slight bit of distortion for movement. Oh and too much vibrato can do it too...I dunno man, sounds to me like you need to spend some more time working with sub bass :P

Re: Sub Bass in massive

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:52 pm
by -[2]DAY_-
sine untouched, unfiltered, pitch and amplitude mod only. maybe you could even use the bypass fader to let it out pure

Re: Sub Bass in massive

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:31 pm
by ChadDub
Squre-Sine, WT Position to Sine, done.

Re: Sub Bass in massive

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:14 pm
by dmisreal
Why use massive for sub
Well on the other hand what daw do u use
If FL just use 3xosc or sytrus :4:

Re: Sub Bass in massive

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:15 pm
by jrisreal
dangit dm, i was literally in the process of writing that when you posted it

Re: Sub Bass in massive

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:49 pm
by poundcake42
I managed to get a good clean sound out of massive using the 3 oscs set to B-Pulse setting. Then add whatever flavor you want to the effects chain/processing blah blah. I tend to like a dirtier sub myself so I add a weeeeeeeee bit of white noise and bit crush, then a low pass filter. I liked how it sounded :P

Re: Sub Bass in massive

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:58 pm
by dmisreal
jrisreal wrote:dangit dm, i was literally in the process of writing that when you posted it
so i win :4:

Re: Sub Bass in massive

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:02 pm
by GothamHero
Lectric wrote:heyyo. im just wondering how i can make a straight sub bass in massive. i cant get one that seems to stay undistorted and whatever. do you guys now how to make one?
JUST GOOGL-...
sorry if repost.
inb4 just google it.
Aww damn it.


I prefer using Massive because you can apply a dimension expander and other flashy, but useless effects.

Re: Sub Bass in massive

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:02 pm
by RandoRando
i use massive for sub bass because i cant get sub bass to wobble in 3xosc like i can in sytrus, put the lfo on the wt position, thats an interesting wobble effect, or put a hi pass on it, usually keep it off but wobble that when you want wobble

Re: Sub Bass in massive

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:39 pm
by Heartless
poundcake42 wrote:I managed to get a good clean sound out of massive using the 3 oscs set to B-Pulse setting. Then add whatever flavor you want to the effects chain/processing blah blah. I tend to like a dirtier sub myself so I add a weeeeeeeee bit of white noise and bit crush, then a low pass filter. I liked how it sounded :P
Just use a sine wave. Adding effects ruins your sub bass.

Re: Sub Bass in massive

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:44 pm
by jrisreal
Heartless wrote:
poundcake42 wrote:I managed to get a good clean sound out of massive using the 3 oscs set to B-Pulse setting. Then add whatever flavor you want to the effects chain/processing blah blah. I tend to like a dirtier sub myself so I add a weeeeeeeee bit of white noise and bit crush, then a low pass filter. I liked how it sounded :P
Just use a sine wave. Adding effects ruins your sub bass.
actually not always. what I've been trying lately is forwarding the sub to a send where I distort it and then hi-pass and bring it back in with the clean sine. It gives the sub some flavor and power and the sub can then still be heard by people without subwoofers.

Re: Sub Bass in massive

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:49 pm
by zerbaman
dmisreal wrote:Why use massive for sub
Well on the other hand what daw do u use
If FL just use 3xosc or sytrus :4:
3xOsc. It's lighter on teh old SeePU

Re: Sub Bass in massive

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:56 pm
by poundcake42
Heartless wrote:
poundcake42 wrote:I managed to get a good clean sound out of massive using the 3 oscs set to B-Pulse setting. Then add whatever flavor you want to the effects chain/processing blah blah. I tend to like a dirtier sub myself so I add a weeeeeeeee bit of white noise and bit crush, then a low pass filter. I liked how it sounded :P
Just use a sine wave. Adding effects ruins your sub bass.
EDIT: B-Pulse sounded smoothest and lovely to me. I add very lightly, just a lil bit to give it some edge that I tend to favor.

For a plain jane good ol' sub I use Sylenth. Super easy to set up a good clean sub in seconds. On that I like to have 2 sine osc with one detuned like a notch for a bit o' de tenshuun mon. :P

Re: Sub Bass in massive

Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:58 pm
by zerbaman
poundcake42 wrote:
Heartless wrote:
poundcake42 wrote:I managed to get a good clean sound out of massive using the 3 oscs set to B-Pulse setting. Then add whatever flavor you want to the effects chain/processing blah blah. I tend to like a dirtier sub myself so I add a weeeeeeeee bit of white noise and bit crush, then a low pass filter. I liked how it sounded :P
Just use a sine wave. Adding effects ruins your sub bass.
Massive doesn't have a plain sine. It has sin/square, sin/saw, and sin/triangle, neither of which I was liking for my sub sound. B-Pulse sounded smoothest and lovely to me. I add very lightly, just a lil bit to give it some edge that I tend to favor.
Change the wavetable settings.

Re: Sub Bass in massive

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:11 am
by ChadDub
I already said how to get a sine in Massive geez

Re: Sub Bass in massive

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 12:13 am
by zerbaman
ChadDub wrote:I already said how to get a sine in Massive geez
I'm under the impression that he doesn't know how.
Then again, I don't know how to explain it to him :lol:

Re: Sub Bass in massive

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 1:01 am
by poundcake42
Oooooh >_> I didn't know the tech behind what a wavetable does. I just knew it changed the sound. So I take it the wavetable gradually changes the waveshape from one to the other depending on where you set the parameter? I thought it output both of the labeled waves. /facepalm
I burn with the shame, dishonor!
Thanks for the tidbit o'info. Will definitely change how I look at my sound design in Massive.

Re: Sub Bass in massive

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:41 am
by zerbaman
poundcake42 wrote:Oooooh >_> I didn't know the tech behind what a wavetable does. I just knew it changed the sound. So I take it the wavetable gradually changes the waveshape from one to the other depending on where you set the parameter? I thought it output both of the labeled waves. /facepalm
I burn with the shame, dishonor!
Thanks for the tidbit o'info. Will definitely change how I look at my sound design in Massive.
It's cool. Didn't figure it out so easily myself lol