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Automation Clips on FL

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:49 am
by _TraX_
Quick simple question on FL, how do I make an automation clip for an entire pattern. I have a drum line I want to fade in but I want the entire pattern to fade in, not just one channel.

Thanks

Re: Automation Clips on FL

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:51 am
by Grimenoceros
Are you bussing all your percussion to a drum channel? If you're not already doing that (you should, one last round of light reverb and compression on a drum bus makes the kit mesh), then do that and just automate the volume of the one mixer channel.

In case I'm reading that wrong and you're talking about fading in all of the sounds going on plus the drums, then..? Just automate each channel? I'm sure it'd be a pain but it's either that or do it manually in Audacity on the spot you want once you bounce the finished track out?

Hope this helped.

Re: Automation Clips on FL

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:01 am
by jrisreal
Make a clip for each drum sound.

Re: Automation Clips on FL

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:03 am
by _TraX_
Grimenoceros wrote:Are you bussing all your percussion to a drum channel? If you're not already doing that (you should, one last round of light reverb and compression on a drum bus makes the kit mesh), then do that and just automate the volume of the one mixer channel.

In case I'm reading that wrong and you're talking about fading in all of the sounds going on plus the drums, then..? Just automate each channel? I'm sure it'd be a pain but it's either that or do it manually in Audacity on the spot you want once you bounce the finished track out?

Hope this helped.

Hmm, how do I get it all into one channel?

Re: Automation Clips on FL

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:09 am
by Grimenoceros
-TraX- wrote:
Grimenoceros wrote:Are you bussing all your percussion to a drum channel? If you're not already doing that (you should, one last round of light reverb and compression on a drum bus makes the kit mesh), then do that and just automate the volume of the one mixer channel.

In case I'm reading that wrong and you're talking about fading in all of the sounds going on plus the drums, then..? Just automate each channel? I'm sure it'd be a pain but it's either that or do it manually in Audacity on the spot you want once you bounce the finished track out?

Hope this helped.

Hmm, how do I get it all into one channel?
In FL? Just take whichever channels you have the other stuff on (the channel you routed all your kicks to, the channel with all the snares, etc.), and click on the little arrow underneath the FX button under the master track to stop the signal sending to the out, then instead click that button on an empty mixer channel, and do that for all the drums sending them to that one channel. That way the signals from each are going only to the drum channel/bus and not to the output, then only the drum channel as one signal is going to the output. Savvy?

Re: Automation Clips on FL

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:24 am
by RandoRando
jrisreal wrote:Make a clip for each drum sound.
:a:

Op put all your individual drum sounds into their own mixer channel, then on the mixer for each track, your gonna highlight it , then go to track 20 ( doesn't have to be 20 just any empty track) and on the knob underneath the channel fader , then while the original drum channel highlighted, right click hat knob and click route to this channel only. No do that for allyour drum channels and all your drums will be inthat channel now just automate the volume of that one channelfor what your tryin to do . Oh and that's calls making a bus. You made a drums bus.

Re: Automation Clips on FL

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:29 am
by oprs
RandoRando wrote:
jrisreal wrote:Make a clip for each drum sound.
:a:

Op put all your individual drum sounds into their own mixer channel, then on the mixer for each track, your gonna highlight it , then go to track 20 ( doesn't have to be 20 just any empty track) and on the knob underneath the channel fader , then while the original drum channel highlighted, right click hat knob and click route to this channel only. No do that for allyour drum channels and all your drums will be inthat channel now just automate the volume of that one channelfor what your tryin to do . Oh and that's calls making a bus. You made a drums bus.
:a:

you said 2=3 one time, i no believe you.

Re: Automation Clips on FL

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:33 am
by RandoRando
oprs wrote:
RandoRando wrote:
jrisreal wrote:Make a clip for each drum sound.
:a:

Op put all your individual drum sounds into their own mixer channel, then on the mixer for each track, your gonna highlight it , then go to track 20 ( doesn't have to be 20 just any empty track) and on the knob underneath the channel fader , then while the original drum channel highlighted, right click hat knob and click route to this channel only. No do that for allyour drum channels and all your drums will be inthat channel now just automate the volume of that one channelfor what your tryin to do . Oh and that's calls making a bus. You made a drums bus.
:a:

you said 2=3 one time, i no believe you.
When did I say such a thing

Re: Automation Clips on FL

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:04 am
by jrisreal
RandoRando wrote:
jrisreal wrote:Make a clip for each drum sound.
:a:
:a: That's actually how I would do it, rather than grouping all the drums on a bus.

Re: Automation Clips on FL

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:34 am
by _TraX_
Grimenoceros wrote:
-TraX- wrote:
Grimenoceros wrote:Are you bussing all your percussion to a drum channel? If you're not already doing that (you should, one last round of light reverb and compression on a drum bus makes the kit mesh), then do that and just automate the volume of the one mixer channel.

In case I'm reading that wrong and you're talking about fading in all of the sounds going on plus the drums, then..? Just automate each channel? I'm sure it'd be a pain but it's either that or do it manually in Audacity on the spot you want once you bounce the finished track out?

Hope this helped.

Hmm, how do I get it all into one channel?
In FL? Just take whichever channels you have the other stuff on (the channel you routed all your kicks to, the channel with all the snares, etc.), and click on the little arrow underneath the FX button under the master track to stop the signal sending to the out, then instead click that button on an empty mixer channel, and do that for all the drums sending them to that one channel. That way the signals from each are going only to the drum channel/bus and not to the output, then only the drum channel as one signal is going to the output. Savvy?
I'll try it, but wouldn't that just make one jumbled sound of everything?

Re: Automation Clips on FL

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 8:37 am
by _TraX_
Well first of all, the sounds I'm using aren't all in the mixer yet. They only go into the mixer if I added effects to them, which I only did to one. So I only have the sound coming out of the master, pretty much. What do I do ?

Re: Automation Clips on FL

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:08 am
by RandoRando
-TraX- wrote:Well first of all, the sounds I'm using aren't all in the mixer yet. They only go into the mixer if I added effects to them, which I only did to one. So I only have the sound coming out of the master, pretty much. What do I do ?
put them all on mixer tracks for mixing, the mixer isnt just for adding fx, its how you mix down your tracks to get them sounding clean and presentable.

if you dont want to use the mixer, just right click the volume knob next to each sounds in the step sequencer and click create automation clip.

Re: Automation Clips on FL

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 5:30 pm
by Grimenoceros
RandoRando wrote:
jrisreal wrote:Make a clip for each drum sound.
:a:

Op put all your individual drum sounds into their own mixer channel, then on the mixer for each track, your gonna highlight it , then go to track 20 ( doesn't have to be 20 just any empty track) and on the knob underneath the channel fader , then while the original drum channel highlighted, right click hat knob and click route to this channel only. No do that for allyour drum channels and all your drums will be inthat channel now just automate the volume of that one channelfor what your tryin to do . Oh and that's calls making a bus. You made a drums bus.
Dude I just said all of that -___-

Re: Automation Clips on FL

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:26 am
by _TraX_
RandoRando wrote:
jrisreal wrote:Make a clip for each drum sound.
:a:

Op put all your individual drum sounds into their own mixer channel, then on the mixer for each track, your gonna highlight it , then go to track 20 ( doesn't have to be 20 just any empty track) and on the knob underneath the channel fader , then while the original drum channel highlighted, right click hat knob and click route to this channel only. No do that for allyour drum channels and all your drums will be inthat channel now just automate the volume of that one channelfor what your tryin to do . Oh and that's calls making a bus. You made a drums bus.
Yes yes, I understand this! Alright thanks a bunch! I had a little practice with this while learning to resample, as well as splitting frequencies. Wish me luck!

:w:

Re: Automation Clips on FL

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:30 am
by RandoRando
Grimenoceros wrote:
RandoRando wrote:
jrisreal wrote:Make a clip for each drum sound.
:a:

Op put all your individual drum sounds into their own mixer channel, then on the mixer for each track, your gonna highlight it , then go to track 20 ( doesn't have to be 20 just any empty track) and on the knob underneath the channel fader , then while the original drum channel highlighted, right click hat knob and click route to this channel only. No do that for allyour drum channels and all your drums will be inthat channel now just automate the volume of that one channelfor what your tryin to do . Oh and that's calls making a bus. You made a drums bus.
Dude I just said all of that -___-
:corndance:

Re: Automation Clips on FL

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:34 am
by zerbaman
Just use FPC with this preset
http://www.mediafire.com/?37f3s05z59zi2a4

Re: Automation Clips on FL

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:38 pm
by ComfiStile
zerbaman wrote:Just use FPC with this preset
http://www.mediafire.com/?37f3s05z59zi2a4
:W:

Re: Automation Clips on FL

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:55 pm
by zerbaman
Just so you know:
The preset is set up so that each pad will have it's own mixer track. So link the drum channel to track one. and all the pads will be hooked up for you, then you can route all the drums from their individual tracks to the "drum-bus" for automation, filtering and any final drum effect work.

Re: Automation Clips on FL

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:28 am
by _TraX_
zerbaman wrote:Just so you know:
The preset is set up so that each pad will have it's own mixer track. So link the drum channel to track one. and all the pads will be hooked up for you, then you can route all the drums from their individual tracks to the "drum-bus" for automation, filtering and any final drum effect work.
Woah, this sounds like this could work. I just finished routing all the drum sounds to seperate mixers, and I'm surprised how small FL mixers are, only 14 channels? What if you're making a huge song?

But with this FPC thing, I don't quite understand

Re: Automation Clips on FL

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:35 am
by _TraX_
RandoRando wrote:
jrisreal wrote:Make a clip for each drum sound.
:a:

Op put all your individual drum sounds into their own mixer channel, then on the mixer for each track, your gonna highlight it , then go to track 20 ( doesn't have to be 20 just any empty track) and on the knob underneath the channel fader , then while the original drum channel highlighted, right click hat knob and click route to this channel only. No do that for allyour drum channels and all your drums will be inthat channel now just automate the volume of that one channelfor what your tryin to do . Oh and that's calls making a bus. You made a drums bus.
Wait, so I did this. So now how do I create an automation clip for a mixer channel? It came out as a purple Panning envelope, but when I put it under the drum pattern in the playlist, it did nothing. :(