Logic Volume Automation Trick

judge_banks · Post by **judge_banks** » Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:35 pm

I hate that when you have a track in "read" mode and you have volume automation on that track, that you can no longer use the track's fader to globally affect the automation i.e. if I want to raise the volume +1db across the board, but keep the automation as is, I have to select all the animation and raise it up...not exactly a rough task, but it sucks during mixing.

So I realized that if you just put a gain plugin at the end of the effect chain, you can automate the volume that way, leaving the "master fader" for that track available to adjust as you please.

Jst thought I'd share, I think this is going to help me a lot.

lyons238 · Post by **lyons238** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:53 am

yeah most people automate the volume on the synth instead of the mixer channel at least until they're totally done mixing...it is a pain in the ass have automation set on a mixer fader then needing to change the original position of the fader.

Manic Harmonic · Post by **Manic Harmonic** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:58 am

If you hold down option and drag the little yellow volume fader in the arrange window, you can adjust the entire volume of the track. Hope that makes sense

RandoRando · Post by **RandoRando** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 8:46 am

idk about logic, but in FL to automate volumes i just put a "fruity balance" (which is basically just a volume knob" on the end of signal chain of the mixer track, turn the balance down to what the volume to be when it gets automated, then i just adjust the wet/dry 0% to 100% of the balance when i want the volume to be automated.

Manic Harmonic · Post by **Manic Harmonic** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:26 pm

Here's what I was talking about... The yellow bar next to that automation. hold down the OPT key and drag it.

PERCEPT · Post by **PERCEPT** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:34 pm

Manic Harmonic wrote:

Here's what I was talking about... The yellow bar next to that automation. hold down the OPT key and drag it.

That's quality, had no idea.

judge_banks · Post by **judge_banks** » Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:59 pm

PERCEPT wrote:
Manic Harmonic wrote:

Here's what I was talking about... The yellow bar next to that automation. hold down the OPT key and drag it.
That's quality, had no idea.

Yeah, I gotcha, but it's still inconvenient to have to open up the automation lane and use the mouse, as opposed to simply bumping up a fader on my control surface.

Manic Harmonic · Post by **Manic Harmonic** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:21 am

judge_banks wrote:
PERCEPT wrote:
Manic Harmonic wrote:

Here's what I was talking about... The yellow bar next to that automation. hold down the OPT key and drag it.
That's quality, had no idea.

Yeah, I gotcha, but it's still inconvenient to have to open up the automation lane and use the mouse, as opposed to simply bumping up a fader on my control surface.

yeah for sure. i think im gonna try this technique from now on...

Depone · Post by **Depone** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:39 am

I found the gain plugin doesnt really automate smoothly. Try it yourself, put a simple straight curve in and watch its fader. I prefer sending the sound to its own bus, then put that bus under the synth/sampler whatever in the arrange window and you then have one extra fader to make small adjustments

gen_ · Post by **gen_** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:52 pm

Depone wrote:I found the gain plugin doesnt really automate smoothly. Try it yourself, put a simple straight curve in and watch its fader. I prefer sending the sound to its own bus, then put that bus under the synth/sampler whatever in the arrange window and you then have one extra fader to make small adjustments

Works fine for me. theres a 'Sample Accurate Automation' option in the settings. Have you got it checked?

Sharmaji · Post by **Sharmaji** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:56 pm

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Ldizzy · Post by **Ldizzy** » Tue Aug 23, 2011 5:12 am

Manic Harmonic wrote:If you hold down option and drag the little yellow volume fader in the arrange window, you can adjust the entire volume of the track. Hope that makes sense

no shit...

thats boosted

Manic Harmonic · Post by **Manic Harmonic** » Tue Aug 23, 2011 6:57 am

Ldizzy wrote:
Manic Harmonic wrote:If you hold down option and drag the little yellow volume fader in the arrange window, you can adjust the entire volume of the track. Hope that makes sense
no shit...

thats boosted

i dont know what you mean, its not boosted if your track is well below 0 db... its just changing the overall volume of your automation, right?. i dont know why youre saying no shit, because apparently a few people didnt know it...

Ldizzy · Post by **Ldizzy** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:46 am

lol sorry, i meant boosted as in ... nvm...

i just meant, thats a heck of a good tip

ambinate · Post by **ambinate** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:06 am

am i reading this wrong or are we saying that this allows you to adjust volume automation all at once for a track? so if i've got a track's volume automating from -6 db to -8 db and i adjust this with opt + click by -2 db, it'll bring all of that down by 2 db? or am i an idiot and this is about something else? cause i quickly tried it on a track just now and wasn't seeing any adjustments on track automation but, again, i may be an idiot.

Depone · Post by **Depone** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:53 am

ambinate wrote:am i reading this wrong or are we saying that this allows you to adjust volume automation all at once for a track? so if i've got a track's volume automating from -6 db to -8 db and i adjust this with opt + click by -2 db, it'll bring all of that down by 2 db? or am i an idiot and this is about something else? cause i quickly tried it on a track just now and wasn't seeing any adjustments on track automation but, again, i may be an idiot.

Yea. Had a go last night and it does exactly this

Manic Harmonic · Post by **Manic Harmonic** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 3:22 pm

Ldizzy wrote:lol sorry, i meant boosted as in ... nvm...

i just meant, thats a heck of a good tip

oh ok. i was hella confused. fuck yeah

Ldizzy · Post by **Ldizzy** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:45 pm

never forget im french canadian people...

ambinate · Post by **ambinate** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 5:03 pm

hmm, not sure why it wasn't working for me. i'll have to try it out again later. would be a big time saver.

Manic Harmonic · Post by **Manic Harmonic** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:36 am

ambinate wrote:hmm, not sure why it wasn't working for me. i'll have to try it out again later. would be a big time saver.

I think I accidentally said command key, its actually option. did you try both?

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