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Alright, this may sound like a stupid question, but I need to ask it for a personal project.

What are the typical BPM ranges and Note Duration ranges (Whole to 32nds) used in Dubstep? Are triplets commonly used? Are Dotted notes commonly used? Does the dynamics of the midi controller typically control the amplitude of the LFO's signal (i.e., a loud note produces much larger sweeps of the cutoff frequency, whereas a quiet note produces much a smaller sweep)? What is the typical range of cutoff frequencies used?

Essentially...if an all inclusive, fully integrated midi controller designed just for dubstep (could plug it into an amp and go) was on the market, what features would you look for? I'm thinking in particular a wobble bass generator.

140 BPM snare on 3rd beat of each bar

2gutta wrote:140 BPM snare on 3rd beat of each bar

Thank you for trying to help, but thats not what I asked. I'm going to clarify in the original post.

anything you want man, thats the appeal of dubstep. as long as its bassmusic at 140bpm, its whatever else you want it to be pal

Ive read this 5 times and still dont know what your talking about mate.

BPM = 70-180
Triplets = Yes
Dotted = Yes
Midi controllers conrtoling LFO with Vel = Not ones i use or would use i will map/route my controllers the way I want according to the project/song at hand.
LFO Cutoff Freq = 0hz-2khz lol maybe higher too in some avant garde dog whistling dubstep.

Essentially...if an all inclusive, fully integrated midi controller designed just for dubstep (could plug it into an amp and go) was on the market, what features would you look for? = LOL this is to ridiculous of a quesiton for me to take serious, that statement is almost everything that makes dubstep heads hate dubstep/brostep. If you cloned NI Massive and NI FM8 call it the SKrillexizer VST + EMOtouch ControlSurface (midi controller) you could make a killing man lol

But a DubstepinBOX synth/midi device will just get laughed out of this place (i.e. Dubturbo went over so well lol).

Well, to be exact, its not "dubstep in a box." Its hard to explain, I just need some parameters. THANK YOU for answering my questions, its good to know that somebody knows more than the typical "musician" these days...again, thanks. And while I appreciate feedback on this particular target audience, its not what you think it is.

Anyways, would controlling the amplitude of the LFO with the dynamics of the playing be a good idea as an option?

U talking about the velocity of a key press to control the LFO speed?

You might as well be asking whether dubstep producers take sugar in their tea

Everything you mention will vary from producer to producer and track to track.

Haaa Haaa0 wrote: Essentially...if an all inclusive, fully integrated midi controller designed just for dubstep (could plug it into an amp and go) was on the market, what features would you look for? I'm thinking in particular a wobble bass generator.

You should make a dubstep-specific DAW while you're at it, the tempo could be fixed at 140, it could come with some samples of Aaliyah, an 808 sample pack and a copy of Massive. It could even auto-complete your drum loops, and have a big button in the middle of the screen controlling the LFO cutoff of Massive.

1point5 wrote:You might as well be asking whether dubstep producers take sugar in their tea

Everything you mention will vary from producer to producer and track to track.

Ah, perfect; thank you.

And its obvious, but I'm not directly familiar with the actual process of producing dubstep. I am, however, good with electronics and wanted to build something to help with the process.

I believe that answers all of my questions; unless anybody knows of any parameters I haven't considered?

Oh, and 2gutta, yes. In "normal" (i.e. direct organic interface, like a piano) music, its called dynamics (the relative intensitivity, or amplitude of a sound), but because midi controllers dont actually produce a signal and instead use a set of instructions, the "velocity" of a keystroke typically correllates to the dynamics. Unless you use it for something else; in this case, mapping it to control the amplitude of a LFO.

*Edit* OH! What is the typical Db/Octave attenuation of the Low pass filter? Or, rather, are most DAW's (say, Abelton Live) low pass filters based on existing filters? The MoogerFooger springs to mind, among others.

Fuck a genre.

why would anybody want something that was 'Dubstep specific'....that is a terrible idea

Thank you both for your wonderful feedback; if you can't answer my questions, stay off the thread.

Please, just answer my moronic questions and keep your opinions about the validity of my endeavor to yourself.

1point5 wrote:You might as well be asking whether dubstep producers take sugar in their tea

for the record, i dont like iced tea.

magnetron, sputtering wrote:Fuck a genre.

magnetron, sputtering wrote:Fuck a genre.

magnetron, sputtering wrote:Fuck a genre.

magnetron, sputtering wrote:Fuck a genre.

magnetron, sputtering wrote:Fuck a genre.

magnetron, sputtering wrote:Fuck a genre.

Listen Haaa... If this is what you are trying to do (make a device to aid production of dubstep), you should actually be a producer... if you know nothing about what goes into making music, this is the kind of reaction you are going to get...
If you are making the device for yourself, for fun, then whatever.. but you shouldn't be asking ANY OF US what 'is commonly done', because it doesn't matter. where's your spirit of experimentation?

all music is MUSIC, which is ART, which is PERSONAL and HUMAN, and you can't just ask a ton of broad questions like this and expect to have any real understanding of it.
you honestly seem like you know nothing about electronic music... i mean "what kind of attenuation is typical in filters"????? dude depending on the sound I want, I'll use 1-pole, 2-pole, 4-pole, whatever. DUBSTEP is just a word people use, it's not a frikkin religion with a set of commandments.

now there are no dumb questions... but if you are asking if triplets are ever used in dubstep, I have to question if you've actually ever HEARD dubstep before...

it's unpractical to design a midi controller for an exploding fad.

I can't believe you people are leaving this robot troll you.

ffs it's asking about a wobble generating MIDI controller or some shit.

Hes the dubturbo R&D guy haha

a midi controller i can plug into an amp? wut?

also, no i have not seen people assign the note velocity to the lfo width. sounds like a nice idea though, but more like a gimmicky one-off sort of thing. and how would you, the manufacturer, make sure i use it that way? it's up to the user how he assigns his midi cc signals.
and what would make your midi controller "dubstep specific" ? actually, what can make a midi controller dubstep specific? it's all knobs and faders after all, maybe a touchpad or joystick here and there but you know what i mean.

hasezwei wrote:a midi controller i can plug into an amp? wut?

Can someone notify the OP that these are already currently in existence.

They're called synthesizers.
Not the bestest idea for a business plan...

On a more serious note, why would you mass produce and try to sell a product which would not be nearly as customizable (wobble generator presets) when there are products existing on the market that would blow your design out of the water? A lot of the features you're talking about can already be done with a synthesizer that has an LFO and a means to modulate it. :/

IMO you need to go back to the MARKETING phase. First, do research about your potential target demographic, then DESIGN the product on their specific needs. You don't begin designing a product, then start asking for input from the people who would potentially use it unless you already have exposure, market share and experience in the industry in question.

Unless your goal is to be the next ShamWow guy or Billy Mays via your WoMp wOmP brostep bass unit, I would recommend having more insight about production, synthesis, and marketing before you start putting any money into your "personal project".