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Loudness warriors giving tips (aka music industry engineers)

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:06 am
by wormcode
Surprised this isn't a repost. I searched... is it?
Been doing the rounds on some production forums lately, but some people here probably haven't seen it.

http://www.youtube.com/show/pensadosplace
5th Episode (there's 30+ and they get better as they go):


In dance music, we call them producers usually, but the term used outside EDM would be mix engineers. Producers do different jobs outside of EDM.
Non-stop interesting videos from the engineers of some of the biggest acts in music today. Some of these guys are absolute legends so this is a really good peek into their heads.

Honestly a lot of the music itself is kinda lame IMO, autotune galore etc. But it's funny because they don't seem to even pay attention to the music 99% of the time, only the actual sounds.

Re: Loudness warriors giving tips (aka music industry engine

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 11:06 pm
by SLASH
Great Post!
Note to people on here asking about monitors... Manaj was tracked and mixed mostly in studio C at glenwood which has a pair of Yamaha HS80 M's and KRK VXT8's. That should answer all your monitoring questions... both are very affordable.
some good info in there and it's always good to hear engineers talking the trade.
Another suprising thing was that Niki Manaj was mixed almost ALL ITB. (thats more of a gearslutz argument but still)
The cereal to milk ratio was awesome. No one spice sticks out particularly.
Great

Re: Loudness warriors giving tips (aka music industry engine

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:04 am
by ChadDub
I just stayed on this page for 41 minutes watching this video, and it felt like 5 minutes. Dayum.

That was a tight video, thanks.

Re: Loudness warriors giving tips (aka music industry engine

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 12:55 am
by skimpi
gonna have to come back tommorow and watch this, can have it keepin me up all night!

Re: Loudness warriors giving tips (aka music industry engine

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:09 am
by MikkiFunk
Manaj was tracked and mixed mostly in studio C at glenwood which has a pair of Yamaha HS80 M's and KRK VXT8's. That should answer all your monitoring questions... both are very affordable.
Sorry, but even once you buy these monitors, you'll still be missing out on the room design, acoustics, and treatment of said studio. So it doesn't really answer much in terms of monitoring. You can't just get the answer to great monitoring by simply buying a monitor imo. Any monitor won't do its best job in an untreated or acoustically bad room. If you knew the room and the monitor extremely well and were experienced then you could work around and compensate for that, but thats unlikely. At least you mentioned they are affordable so no one is going to go and blow 2k on monitors without getting some treatment with them. Also failed to mention the huge 3 way main monitors mounted in the walls lol, don't recognize the model/ brand. In fact i think the HS80-M's you are talking about are just good(not) old NS10s...

Good find on the video though, real good watch!

Re: Loudness warriors giving tips (aka music industry engine

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:22 am
by wormcode
Yeah those are NS10s, the HS80's grandfather pretty much.
Good posts SLASH and MikkiFunk. Also remember the NS10s were almost always powered with the same great amplifier that was industry standard, and those don't come cheap. The model escapes me now, but everyone would seek that specific NS10 setup.

Damn Chad you watched that tiny window the whole time? Haha, get over to the channel and full screen it. I wish they were in HD, but honestly the quality is very nice for what it is. Can make out everything well enough.

If they released these on DVD or a Bluray pack I would definitely buy it.

Re: Loudness warriors giving tips (aka music industry engine

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:18 am
by Heartless
A bit slow and dry. I wish they would cut down on the chit chat. I saw some good tips but had to wade through a bunch of stoned mumbling to get to 'em.

Re: Loudness warriors giving tips (aka music industry engine

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:54 am
by nowaysj
321 posts of negativity + chea!!!

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wait vxt's are affordable? They're over a grand. I suppose its relative, I've seen more people here on dsf who aren't ready to commit to rokit 5's. :)

Thanks wormcode!

Re: Loudness warriors giving tips (aka music industry engine

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:23 am
by skimpi
i love my hs80s!

Re: Loudness warriors giving tips (aka music industry engine

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:29 pm
by -[2]DAY_-
nowaysj wrote:321 posts of negativity + chea!!!
is heartless sirius? :o

Re: Loudness warriors giving tips (aka music industry engine

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:01 pm
by Samuel_L_Damnson
"Those are some good lookin' knobs, if you're aproducer you now how important it is to have good lookin' knobs" :lol:

Re: Loudness warriors giving tips (aka music industry engine

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:54 pm
by komanderkin
loved the video, thanks!

Re: Loudness warriors giving tips (aka music industry engine

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:35 pm
by grooki
-[2]DAY_- wrote:
nowaysj wrote:321 posts of negativity + chea!!!
is heartless sirius? :o
:o


I think Noways has just adopted Chea! at the end of every post, as some sort of "thumbs up, there's my two cents, kthxbai" sort of deal.

Chea!



EDIT: where is Sirius anyway?

Re: Loudness warriors giving tips (aka music industry engine

Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 11:29 pm
by nowaysj
Got banned hard for saying something like it was a good thing that earthquake happened in japan because the japanese are merciless whalers. What any of that has to do with electronic music production, I don't know.

Re: Loudness warriors giving tips (aka music industry engine

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:45 am
by SLASH
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your right... i was damn sure you were wrong because most ns10's have yellowish cones by now and those are so clean.
I stand corrected.

Re: Loudness warriors giving tips (aka music industry engine

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:25 am
by MikkiFunk
wait vxt's are affordable? They're over a grand.
No they're just under a grand, you could get them for under 800 if you looked around though...

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your right... i was damn sure you were wrong because most ns10's have yellowish cones by now and those are so clean.
I stand corrected.
It's an easy mistake tbh. The HS80 is like the upgrade/ predecessor to the NS10 after all, as wormcode mentioned already. You can always tell NS10's either way because of the off centre tweeter, also I think HS80's are a little bigger than that...


I thought it was a good watch overall but yeah they need to cut down on the chit chat, its good sometimes cos I guess something very formal can get very boring very quickly lol

Re: Loudness warriors giving tips (aka music industry engine

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:28 am
by Gurnumsbug
I now will be looking for some NS10's lol!
Great video and share wormcode :4:

Re: Loudness warriors giving tips (aka music industry engine

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 3:28 am
by nowaysj
I really wouldn't do that.

Music Production

Re: Loudness warriors giving tips (aka music industry engine

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 5:46 am
by Heartless
nowaysj wrote:321 posts of negativity + chea!!!
"Negativity" is completely disregarding the time someone has spent helpin' out on this forum because they have an opposing opinion. Deal with it.

Re: Loudness warriors giving tips (aka music industry engine

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 5:51 am
by narcissus
all I'm gonna say is, if the dude 'Dave' says "Jojo" is one of his favorite singers.....

i don't think i'm gonna listen to a god damn thing he says about music.. + he spent half the time hyping expensive new plugs..


yarg. i'm just in a shitty mood i guess.