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What does the term "bounce" mean?

Post by nashley » Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:56 pm

Im sure this is straight noob stuff but if Im using ableton so say for example that take massive screw about with it... get a sound i like and then either create another audio track and "route"(dunno if im using that term correctly either) that audio to either come from resampling, or A send. What about freeze and flatten is that "bouncing"?

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Re: What does the term "bounce" mean?

Post by Disco Nutter » Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:03 pm

Spot on. :)

But use The Ableton Q&A Thread next time.

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Re: What does the term "bounce" mean?

Post by lyons238 » Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:12 pm

yeah basically you bounce midi to audio. bounce can also be used to describe a bouncy rhythm often found in dubstep.
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Re: What does the term "bounce" mean?

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Re: What does the term "bounce" mean?

Post by sunny_b_uk » Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:16 pm

What does the term "bounce" mean? = its when you put a really steep lfo on the pitch of your bass and make it sound like its going BOING BOING!
just kidding but yeah u kinda answered your own question here so i think this will get locked? hmm
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Re: What does the term "bounce" mean?

Post by nashley » Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:17 pm

so then does resampling refer to "audio to audio" if you don't mind me asking?
Im locked up with all this production jargon!!

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Re: What does the term "bounce" mean?

Post by Manic Harmonic » Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:19 pm

yeah, it's any time you create one track from another... i bounce audio tracks too if they have a lot of plugins on them. exporting your song is also bouncing. BOING!
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Re: What does the term "bounce" mean?

Post by sunny_b_uk » Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:22 pm

resampling is a often used word here but i see it as bouncing to audio just to add more effects/to run it into a sampler like Kontakt or Directwave just to mess with the audio in ways that might not be achievable in the synth used that made the initial sound.

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Re: What does the term "bounce" mean?

Post by [asterisk] » Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:29 pm

Yeah this is a term that's been used by studio engineers forever.. originally came about in the analogue days, long before the daw and automation, when mixing down a track was almost as much of a performance as the musical takes themselves (there are some really cool old videos of this on youtube like the ones showing mixdowns from Dark Side of the Moon). Since there was no way but to physically "automate" fade ins/outs, effect sends, etc, back then, they would "bounce down" those complicated parts of the mix to audio and move on down the line. They also did this for finished parts they were happy with (drum tracks , bass...), and bus them to free up space on the desk when needed. nowadays it's mostly used either similarly to free up space (cpu munch), or just to totally mangle sounds beyound recog...

Edit: So bounce refers to the image of bouncing audio down the line (ie. Drum bus - audio, thus now you have one fader for all of drums instead of multiple plus bus so it frees up original channels and bus for new ish. boingy boingy ;)

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Re: What does the term "bounce" mean?

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Re: What does the term "bounce" mean?

Post by Electric_Head » Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:45 am

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Re: What does the term "bounce" mean?

Post by wormcode » Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:17 pm

nashley wrote:so then does resampling refer to "audio to audio" if you don't mind me asking?
Im locked up with all this production jargon!!
Basically. Like taking a sample, adding effects/modulation, then resampling it = exporting it out, and overwriting the original sample in the project, then deleting the effects to save on CPU basically, or repeating the process again. The ongoing argument is that you can only do certain things with resampling. I think it's mostly true, but with todays processors and RAM, it's not really required as much unless you're going for specific destructive effects. Most computers can handle a huge chain of effects and busses these days. I think a bigger bonus is collecting resampled sounds to help build your own little collection that you can just drop into tunes quickly.

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Re: What does the term "bounce" mean?

Post by Turnipish_Thoughts » Tue Sep 13, 2011 6:49 pm

Bounce = sampling, to a degree. I've always seen it as exporting audio from the project in one form or another and then re-importing it back into the project for whatever reason and in whichever form is appropriate. I've come to believe the term 'bounce' comes from the act of exporting for the purpose of re-importing, hence the 'bounce' back into the project.

Like "ok, I've done a load of processing on this synth and it sounds sweet, i can hear a few bits I'd like to chop out, ok lets bounce to audio and sample/chop". Or "yeh this sample I've got sounds really nice after all this processing and i know I've got it sounding exactly how i want it, lets save on the CPU and bounce the track stem." e.t.c. There are a load of other situations.
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Re: What does the term "bounce" mean?

Post by [asterisk] » Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:22 pm

So yeah, even though the term originated as explained by my first post, it has taken on multiple meanings for producers depending on who you ask. Ive heard it used variously to describe any process that creates a new audio file regardless of source or subsequent use of said file (export-import, resample, record from midi, etc..). So can understandably get a bit confused without context..

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Re: What does the term "bounce" mean?

Post by Blastfome » Wed Sep 14, 2011 2:29 am

hahaha, these fucking forum moderators are a joke. I've asked basic questions like these in previous posts of mine and ALWAYS had my thread either shut down or directed to the "appropriate" thread. If ur gunna block one thread then block them all. Why is this thread still open yet a couple months back the one I asked was shut down immediately? I'm tired of NOT getting the answers I need by using the "search" bar (which is barely accurate) or the personal opinions and feedback that I'm looking from the actual dsf community. Seriously, someone needs to figure this shiit out becuz I can never get my questions answered personally, or I feel like i'm not getting involved in the community or getting any feedback around here :i: Sad story...

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Re: What does the term "bounce" mean?

Post by Electric_Head » Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:19 am

maybe you`re asking shit questions?
I don`t know though so I asked the question.
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Re: What does the term "bounce" mean?

Post by Blastfome » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:25 pm

Nah, actually I pretty much asked the same fucking question as this one. I wanted to know what bounce was and techniques people liked to use to achieve so. I think it's more so having "shit" moderators...

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Re: What does the term "bounce" mean?

Post by -[2]DAY_- » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:27 pm

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Re: What does the term "bounce" mean?

Post by wormcode » Wed Sep 14, 2011 3:52 pm

Blastfome wrote:Nah, actually I pretty much asked the same fucking question as this one. I wanted to know what bounce was and techniques people liked to use to achieve so. I think it's more so having "shit" moderators...
Well in the future you can PM a mod and ask them to unlock threads. Maybe this thread just got enough relevant/good answers before it got locked, so it stayed open.

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Re: What does the term "bounce" mean?

Post by nashley » Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:07 am

Blastfome wrote:Nah, actually I pretty much asked the same fucking question as this one. I wanted to know what bounce was and techniques people liked to use to achieve so. I think it's more so having "shit" moderators...
They must just like me better :lol:

and those shit moderators keep this place raging so WATCH YO MOUTH :a:

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