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Anyone here experimenting with this?

Not really into hip-hop production, but he’s (40) an engineer by trade and seriously, some of that stuff is basically just ambient electronica with an 808 beat. I’m surprised mainstream hip-hop has even accepted it to be honest.

Anyway, friend and I decided that by Oct 1st, we would each try to have 2 tunes done in his style. Which isn’t going to be easy, but a fun project.

“I spend a lot of time manipulating my sounds. A lot of the time people think I’m using a Pad and I’m really using a totally distorted and EQ’d, reverbed, tricked out delayed piano”- 40

http://www.nodfactor.com/2010/11/17/7484/

Anyone feeling this right now?

ketamine wrote:Anyone here experimenting with this?

Not really into hip-hop production, but he’s (40) an engineer by trade and seriously, some of that stuff is basically just ambient electronica with an 808 beat. I’m surprised mainstream hip-hop has even accepted it to be honest.

Anyway, friend and I decided that by Oct 1st, we would each try to have 2 tunes done in his style. Which isn’t going to be easy, but a fun project.

“I spend a lot of time manipulating my sounds. A lot of the time people think I’m using a Pad and I’m really using a totally distorted and EQ’d, reverbed, tricked out delayed piano”- 40

http://www.nodfactor.com/2010/11/17/7484/

Anyone feeling this right now?

Mainstream hiphop will accept anything with a beat and a popular rapper.

and punchlines with food references. i swear to god, i don't think i've heard one lil' wayne punch line without a food metaphor. except for maybe that one that's like "she wish that she could cut off my dick and take it home with her." go ahead weezy sounds like a great idea.

for cereal though, go for it, whatever floats your boat. i didn't actually see anywhere on the page to listen to the song...

No link to any songs on that page...
Gonna have to hit up YouTube in a sec..
But I say why not? Go for it

Manic Harmonic wrote:and punchlines with food references. i swear to god, i don't think i've heard one lil' wayne punch line without a food metaphor. except for maybe that one that's like "she wish that she could cut off my dick and take it home with her." go ahead weezy sounds like a great idea.

for cereal though, go for it, whatever floats your boat. i didn't actually see anywhere on the page to listen to the song...

For real. Laffy Taffy has better punchlines than Lil Wayne.

Gurnumsbug wrote:No link to any songs on that page...
Gonna have to hit up YouTube in a sec..
But I say why not? Go for it

He doesn’t put out any official instrumentals.
So you’ll have to listen to these and ignore the vocals…
Pure sound design weird-goody greatness!



^^ WANT TO SEE THE FX CHAIN ON THAT PIANO!!!

Those are actually not half bad...Not a fan of "drake", but the production is tops
Those 2 tracks kind of remind me of james blake in a weird way...Good shit though!
Give it a shot Ketamine...I wouldn't mine giving it a go myself!

ALL OF YOU need to listen to the Weeknd. He's like drake multiplied by awesome.
Anyway! I am working with this sort of sound, notniong up though currently, might have something later. I'm huge into that sound though

All I know is I want to know how to make kicks like this one:

ChadDub wrote:All I know is I want to know how to make kicks like this one:

Is that really what you think it is? I'm talking the drum, not the bass.

I've gotten pretty close by taking a sample and cloning it, then distorting the clone and bandpassing it to get only the 400-600, and putting them together, but it's not exact.

ChadDub wrote:Is that really what you think it is? I'm talking the drum, not the bass.

I've gotten pretty close by taking a sample and cloning it, then distorting the clone and bandpassing it to get only the 400-600, and putting them together, but it's not exact.

Of course the drum. Why would he be using an 808 for bass?

Brotip: Stop using 808 samples and get Nepheton.

To me it sounds like a simple synthetic kick that is saturated. PSP VintageWarmer would work nicely.

ChadDub wrote:Is that really what you think it is? I'm talking the drum, not the bass.

I've gotten pretty close by taking a sample and cloning it, then distorting the clone and bandpassing it to get only the 400-600, and putting them together, but it's not exact.

Get the 808 kick from the vintage folder in FL then put te fruity soft clipper on it and clip it. U can even do it w parallel processing in patcher to preserve the original kicks sound. It also sounds like there is some sidechain compressor in that

Another example: (What sound like pads, are actually piano).



They’re upside down, going backwards and underwater all at the same time!

hm. his drums and grooves are whatever i think... tho it reminds me of old timbo in a good way. i AM intrigued about that 'secret' he mentioned tho. i've got a few of my own but i'd be interested.. i'm listening real hard to see if i can find what he means.. he does have some verrry soulful atmospheres. i think '40' would be really sick if he had more of a 'do it for the love' kinda attitude and didn't have the likes of drake over his beats..

he shouts out Jodeci tho, and all i know is that that is fuckin awesome

narcissus wrote:hm. his drums and grooves are whatever i think... tho it reminds me of old timbo in a good way. i AM intrigued about that 'secret' he mentioned tho. i've got a few of my own but i'd be interested.. i'm listening real hard to see if i can find what he means.. he does have some verrry soulful atmospheres. i think '40' would be really sick if he had more of a 'do it for the love' kinda attitude and didn't have the likes of drake over his beats..

he shouts out Jodeci tho, and all i know is that that is fuckin awesome

Before Drake I guarantee you nobody would have even understood how to use these beats. I've been producing since 2001, and even then, when myself or friends sampled Daft Punk or Alice Deejay people clowned us. Then Kanye dropped that Better Faster Harder sh-t and it was accepted. Hip Hop (industry AND the audience) is extremely unaccepting of new things unless it's brought by a big name, and then everyone jumps on it and wrings it dry. Every wannabe rap producer is now trying to get The Secret Ambient 808 Bass Music sound... They always could have had it, it's the presets in their VST they wrote off as "techno" i love innovation. Props to 40 for unorthodox production and props to Drake for using it, and using it well IMO

Always felt the beats for Drake's tunes. Checkout "Successful"
Beat on that is smooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooth and sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooulful

zerbaman wrote:Always felt the beats for Drake's tunes. Checkout "Successful"
Beat on that is smooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooth and sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooulful

yeah that was one of the ones i checked.. i agree. from those vocal harmonies in the beginning it has a beautiful vibe.. (of course the materialistic lyrics kill it for me)
doesn't hurt that trey songz is on it.. for a top40 crooner with a dumb name he can sure sang.
it's likely that trey songz is pretty fake in his music, and he may be a manipulative bastard as any, but damn he can make a hook shine.

ketamine wrote:Before Drake I guarantee you nobody would have even understood how to use these beats. I've been producing since 2001, and even then, when myself or friends sampled Daft Punk or Alice Deejay people clowned us. Then Kanye dropped that Better Faster Harder sh-t and it was accepted. Hip Hop (industry AND the audience) is extremely unaccepting of new things unless it's brought by a big name, and then everyone jumps on it and wrings it dry. Every wannabe rap producer is now trying to get The Secret Ambient 808 Bass Music sound... They always could have had it, it's the presets in their VST they wrote off as "techno" i love innovation. Props to 40 for unorthodox production and props to Drake for using it, and using it well IMO

Yeah, I know what you mean. Hip Hop is the perfect genre for innovation but yet it's not used very creatively. I be makin smooth jazz type beats with a wobbling sub and everything and it's tight. Let's hope I bring it to the top because that'd be beast.

i'm working on a happy hardcore tune. i'm hoping to make a couple mil off it.