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So I'm working on this chilled out Dubstep beat and it needs another element, something for ears to follow. So I got this pattern I'm humming and it fits tight. But, I have not piano experience and I can't figure out what notes to hit on the keyboard from my humming.

The question. Is there software I can use to figure out the notes I'm humming? Better still, is there software that will record the notes as im humming them? Yeah it's cheating, but unless I study the art of playing a piano and knowing a note from hearing it, I'm a bit fluffed.

I thought about recording the humming and trying to play over it, to see if I can get the notes to fit. The scale of the track is using suspended 4th E. I doubt my humming is on that scale though exactly.

Any advice?

practice playing keyboard, mate. Sorry but i don't know any other advice. If there's an app that changes humming to MIDI, great. but i wouldn't rely on that, even if it's terrifically accurate, i doubt you'd get as much out of it long-term as you would selecting notes via the keyboard layout. I mean, you'd probably want to edit on a piano roll anyway, whether it be editing rhythmic, melodic, velocity, aftertouch, or all/other facets of the data. And if you can communicate information with the keyboard, that's ensuring you really know your shit by way of the piano roll (its the same system).
But i only know what works for me. And i wouldn't call that "cheating," either. You do what works for you, and if its good results, then g'wan with ya badboy humming self. the music won't hold it against you

good luck

[edit] also, check out sites such as this one: http://www.musictheory.net/ you might feel like "fuck that, i'm not gonna do more damn homework than i have to for no reason" .... but if you really want to improve note recognition, that's the way. even if you try it once or twice for five minutes, i'll bet you get some progress out of it.

Edison in fl can change your hum if to midi. Just record yourself humming on anything. Play back note by nOte. And go up and down an octave on your keyboard till you findthat note. And repeat for each note

give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. teach him to apply relative pitch recognition....

-[2]DAY_- wrote:give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. teach him to apply relative pitch recognition....

... and he'll make good enough tunes to eventually get a record deal, possibly start DJing, play gigs, entertain festivals, achieve a number 1 hit, and afford fish every evening with the finest sauvignon blanc!

LOL!

Is that the term for it? Pitch recognition? I now understand why half my sessions end up a waste of time, because I can't get the idea from the head to Logic. Will defiantly have to start learning the theory side of things.

yeah, no one needs perfect pitch, but if someone gave you a C, and said "this is a C" and then asked you to hum back a D, relative pitch would be knowing just how far to jump from C in order to get D. and that's pretty vital to getting those ideas put down. It can be learned, will take some practice, but its so worth it. and its definitely not impossible or super-difficult. best of luck

> In Logic, Record your humming as precisely as possible.

-->Use the pitch correction plugin so that the notes you are humming stick...

-->Bounce that audio to a new audio file.

-->Double click on audio to bring up the audio editor

-->Menus: Factory-->Audio to score.

If this is successful it would write your audio to midi.

-[2]DAY_- wrote:yeah, no one needs perfect pitch, but if someone gave you a C, and said "this is a C" and then asked you to hum back a D, relative pitch would be knowing just how far to jump from C in order to get D. and that's pretty vital to getting those ideas put down. It can be learned, will take some practice, but its so worth it. and its definitely not impossible or super-difficult. best of luck

I've been watching this dude on Music Theory ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxBUnvre ... ure=relmfu

He seems to know his stuff. Even the most simplest stuff is useful! Thanks for the kick up the arse :p

@Depone, I'll give that a try. Never knew you could do that. Not seen you around in a while.

melodyne

Straight up have watched that lypur guy's videos before. He is definitionally a dork.

But I don't know, being able to recognize and reproduce relative pitch is extremely helpful, but I do not think it is a necessity to produce electronic music. Decent tools like Fl Studio and Logic will help you get your musical ideas out of your head and into your daw.

Also, I have to believe that the more you do this, the easier it will become. If you have your key and scale figured out already, there really aren't a lot of note choices. I know sometimes looking at your keyboard there seems like a million notes you can use, but once you're locked into a key and scale, there are only like two notes that can come next in any line.

or you could consider hardware - EARS ana PIANO

brettheaslewood wrote:or you could consider hardware - EARS ana PIANO

Of course. Nothing can replace ear training, music theory and knowing how to play a piano. But, that takes time. Right in the middle of a session with some creative juices flowing, I need to capture my thoughts. There and then. Until I'm at a level of understanding and knowledge to be able to transfer ideas into my finger tips I'm going to have to find another way to capture my ideas.

Although, I'm slowly making that transition.

Nothing can replace ear training, music theory and knowing how to play a piano = False, God given talent + DNA + personal life exp, has produced some of the most famous historical musicians.

Jimi Hendrix was only self taught how to play the guitar, never learned Formal Music Theory and i never have heard him play piano. Sure he trained his ear but not by doing any ear training exercises besides just listening to other people play.

(This statement is made in the effort to be devils advocate to this discussion). Music Theory, Ear Training and Learing to play your instrument are good things to do as a musician but just like how we aim to shape our OWN sounds a musicians should strive to have there OWN musical theory IMHO learn what you want and need to use.... dont get to wrapped up in things. 2day will now probably flame me lol but w/e its the interweb and i can post my opinions too.

Hum the note. Play some keys. If it sounds like the same note, it probably is. I know I've repeated what others have said, but if you can't match a note that you are humming with a keyboard note, there may not be much hope for you in music haha. Don't mean to sound harsh, but seriously.

ComfiStile wrote:if you can't match a note that you are humming with a keyboard note, there may not be much hope for you in music haha.

DAMN!!!

nowaysj wrote:

ComfiStile wrote:if you can't match a note that you are humming with a keyboard note, there may not be much hope for you in music haha.

DAMN!!!

My god, I never knew I could be a tnuc. Aw well.

Ever tried laying melodies down in piano and then changing the sounds?

TRIAL AND ERROR -- never fails

Not entirely true^.