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How to get pumpy drums?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:33 pm
by stanleyderkleinebaum
hi all... here some example of shit drums...

i mean, how to get my drums more loud and dont loose to much dynamics?

my bd lost alot in mids and highs right? how to get them back without annoying layering?

please some help!

Soundcloud

Re: How to get pumpy drums?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:13 pm
by Triphosphate
Well layering in and of itself is a very powerful tool, but if you want your drums to punch you could try a couple of compression techniques, your EQ might help get the sound the way you want it too.

Using your EQ make a gradual roll off of your low end under about 90hz to leave plenty of to for your sub, then boost the fundamental frequency of your kick with a slightly higher Q usually around 100 hz, you can even pitch your kick to make it's fundamental about 100hz. Then pull down your mid slightly to free up room for wobbles, boost your high end on your kick to get a nice papery smack sound.

Next in your routing place a compressor, brickwall it if you'd like (high ratio, fast attack, fast release) then turn your make up gain aaaaaalllll the way down, and start sliding it up until your kick drum signal hits about -8db. Finally turn your release up slowly until it sounds natural or you get as much tail end out of your kick as you desire.

If you have any specific questions feel free to Pm me, also if you have the chance please check out my latest track:
http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=220033

Ps. Your track is sick man, I dig your format. Your problem might actually lie in the levels of everything else being too loud, try lowering them a bit AND boosting your kick and you'll see a huge difference!

Re: How to get pumpy drums?

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:01 am
by Triphosphate
Search in YouTube for "dodge and fuski drum tutorial" for some tips from pro's
;)

Re: How to get pumpy drums?

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:47 am
by rallz
hi bro, thx alot for your comments, i appreciate that...

could you analyze my kick and snare? some pro/ contra stuff u know

greetz

Re: How to get pumpy drums?

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:52 am
by snypadub
I swear I thought I was in the production forum just then. What is wrong with people today? Can't you morons read the board index?

Re: How to get pumpy drums?

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:20 pm
by rallz
get lost troll

Re: How to get pumpy drums?

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:13 pm
by Triphosphate
In his defense, he did post a song which his question relates to for us to listen to and offer feedback on. :-/
Though, there are a ton of threads that can help you in the production thread.

Re: How to get pumpy drums?

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:34 pm
by RatRaceProducing
Triphosphate wrote:Well layering in and of itself is a very powerful tool, but if you want your drums to punch you could try a couple of compression techniques, your EQ might help get the sound the way you want it too.

Using your EQ make a gradual roll off of your low end under about 90hz to leave plenty of to for your sub, then boost the fundamental frequency of your kick with a slightly higher Q usually around 100 hz, you can even pitch your kick to make it's fundamental about 100hz. Then pull down your mid slightly to free up room for wobbles, boost your high end on your kick to get a nice papery smack sound.

Next in your routing place a compressor, brickwall it if you'd like (high ratio, fast attack, fast release) then turn your make up gain aaaaaalllll the way down, and start sliding it up until your kick drum signal hits about -8db. Finally turn your release up slowly until it sounds natural or you get as much tail end out of your kick as you desire.

If you have any specific questions feel free to Pm me, also if you have the chance please check out my latest track:
http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=220033

Ps. Your track is sick man, I dig your format. Your problem might actually lie in the levels of everything else being too loud, try lowering them a bit AND boosting your kick and you'll see a huge difference!
thats a very good bit of information right there, a nice place to start indeed and build from there. Layering is key in production so you may as well get used to it :P. I nearly always layer my kicks (usual because the samples i have are shite) but it also gives a bit more depth to play with. Comrpession is good, not essential but definately give the "pump".

forgot to add, check out my latest track son soundcloud, most are up for free download and those that aren't are just not quite finished. let me know what you think, tell you friends, spread and embed!

Peace, Lewis

Re: How to get pumpy drums?

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:56 pm
by stanleyderkleinebaum
so there we go, i am layering all my stuff, but the point is: my kick sounds "solo" cool, but inside the basses and reezes, she just wont come through, i sidechain hard everytime, but its still ducked .../facepalm

Re: How to get pumpy drums?

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:12 pm
by snypadub
Seriously! Production forum. It's a WIP therefore, production

Re: How to get pumpy drums?

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:18 pm
by -[2]DAY_-
Lmao @ "annoying layering"

The obvious answer is resample onto a t-shirt and sidechain to apron

Re: How to get pumpy drums?

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:46 pm
by Triphosphate
^ layering is so powerful man, how can you dislike mixing the pop from one kick with the this from another, instead of just slapping the two together try combining them to create an entirely new one.

Re: How to get pumpy drums?

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:49 am
by jdoost123
Here is a great video on creating some punchy drums:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceBYM9ewDww

Check out his other videos to on snares and loops. Great tutorials :)