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is dubstep too serious???
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:35 pm
by stenchman
i love dubstep to bits but i have to admit a lot of it is very moody, do u think theres a place for cheerful/downright silly tunes in dub? to emphasize wt i mean ive uploaded a tune called "who moved my cheese" onto my profile, click the link below to hear it..
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:36 pm
by rudeski damager
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:37 pm
by stenchman
sorry my signature aint workin for sum reason
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see if that does
nope obv not, ok
www.myspace.com/henchstench
wt a fukabout!!!
btw in case anyone wonderin about my url, im not assosiated with the hench crew, its cos my dnb producer name is henchman.
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:41 pm
by soundbwoy
I read something about Dubstep becoming darker and more masculine.
But as to your question, not at all. I don't really do non-serious music. Any sort of cheese makes me want to die. There's some overtly happy dubstep floating around at the moment, doesn't really fit the bass...
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:26 pm
by 7"
serious? hold them tight brotha, thought dubstep is going seriously strong each day, thats it.
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:43 pm
by hungry_man
i know where you're coming from....i think its inherited that from DnB
its important to remeber that tunes can be happy without being cheesey. it all comes down to choice of chords and the perception of the listener
The dubbier tunes often use happier chords. a lot of dub coming from people like iration steppers sounds very close to dubstep, downright heavy and can also be happy and uplifting
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:44 pm
by randomhed
soundbwoy wrote:I read something about Dubstep becoming darker and more masculine.
But as to your question, not at all. I don't really do non-serious music. Any sort of cheese makes me want to die. There's some overtly happy dubstep floating around at the moment, doesn't really fit the bass...
Yup, second that one.
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:49 pm
by masstronaut
happy is not the opposite of serious.
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:04 pm
by thump rat
See wordds like dark, cheesey and happy are subjective. People say to me tunes they want a dark tunes and that normally equates to a in your face tune with overt horror samples and a ridiculously distorted bassline, but when i think of dark tunes i think of more minimal, sub bassed tunes, 28g for example is dark as it has a moody and dry atmosphere for me, thats why alot of "dark" dnb and breaks just doesn't strike a chord with me. Having said that i make un-serious tunes aimed mainly for the dance floor.
I think theres plenty of tunes which aren't so serious in nature tho.

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:08 pm
by Rob H
i prefer 'serious' to 'silly'
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:09 pm
by misk
yeah, its whatever you want it to be. somedays i make a dark track, somedays i make a light track. its really either black or white tho. theres not much in between.

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:20 pm
by loetech
you can make dark tunes without taking it serious
fuck, why be such a nerd? it's just music right?
*not saying the thread starter or anyone is a nerd...just saying...*
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:24 pm
by thomas e. griffin
I don't think dubstep is serious enough a lot of the time and I don't think dark necessarily equates with serious, as some of the dubstep that would probably be considered dark is often quite pantomime in its menace.
I reckon my favorite producers are Mala, Kode9 and Geiom and I reckon the reason I like them is because they aren't trying too hard to be dark and moody or too hard to fill dancefloors. It just sounds more natural to me. I'd consider their music to be serious and deep without being overly and contrivedly dark.
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:41 pm
by toxin
I write dark dubstep because thats what I feel.......
Cant get enough of the more upbeat tracks like Tes's "Round the World Girls"
Dubstep too serious? It is what you want it to be.
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:50 pm
by shonky
It could lighten up a bit, some people think that anything vaguely cheery or melodic is "chart shit"
Some stuff's underground cause it's not very good and doesn't sell shit you know...shhhh
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:15 pm
by soundbwoy
It's definitely on a horror tip atm, like Torment sampling 13 ghosts and Benga's 10 tons but to be fair both those tracks carry it off with finesse, especially Benga. HOWEVER it is getting slightly old, and we have to thank Shackleton with Blood On My Hands for the actual darkest track of anything ever which is at the same time ridiculously spiritual and beautiful. An actual perfect track... which would have been ruined by shock samples as is the current trend. Instead, the vox is unnerving and haunting and works so well with the track.
Agree that the two don't have to go together though - take a lot of Digital Mystikz, Neverland is undoubtedly serious but manages to prevent itself from becoming too dark, Temptation and Qawwali are serious, moody but uplifting.
That said, I do think you can get a lot more out of a minor chord than a major chord.
Darkest dubstep tracks without vox, head over to the techno side: Stamp Release and Anstam kill it.
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:25 pm
by mayhem
I think are already a load of cheesy / fun dance floor tunes. It seems to be one of the more popular sounds in Dubstep from my perspective.
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:29 pm
by subframe
yeah, any music that results in Cockney Thug can't be too serious.
Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:43 pm
by the wiggle baron
Theres nothing you can do to make me untrue to my man, my man!
(silly bassline)
Yeah, theres room for less than serious dubstep

Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:09 pm
by stenchman
nice cross section of views, i agree with what has been said about over use of horror samples, mind you they are effective tho! did anyone have a listen to that who moved my cheese tune thats on my profile? see if u reckon its just too silly to be droppable