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milesgreg46
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Reason rewire ?

Post by milesgreg46 » Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:44 pm

Sorry if there has already been a thread like this but I'm new to the production thing, I have recently started using reason. I really like the rack set up of it but find the lack of being able to sample vocal samples and other samples easily really limiting. I have heard about being able to rewire reason into Cubase, I have used cubase in gcse music and find the sequencer much easier to use then the one in reason. Also being able to download vst's and use them in cubase would be handy. What i am wondering is should i rewire reason into cubase, or just use cubase to make my music on. I have found good cubase production tutorials very hard to find and have found loads for reason. Any advice would really be appreciated. Sorry for any noob questions :)

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Re: Reason rewire ?

Post by nftfhx » Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:17 am

dont worry about asking questions man, how else will you learn?
the thing with choosing DAW's is that it's completely subjective as to which one is the best, it's all down to you and how you like to work
if you're really struggling with deciding youtube some of the ways you're thinking of working and see how they work and what they're like or look for some demos and give them a shot!
if you want to use vst's etc and you like how reason works then just rewire away! you might find after a while that you only use reason for tiny things that you could do elsewhere or maybe the other way round
or have you considered upgrading to reason 6? it's got full audio tracks now so you'd be able to cut about as you pleased (i think!) so if that's your only issue, that would be a good solution
there's no real answer to that sort of question, you've just got to experiment with different ways of working and you'll find one that sticks
as for the lack of tutorials, you should see that as a positive as it'll be more incentive to do the work yourself and develop your own sound and a muuch better knowledge of music production
good luck! :)

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Re: Reason rewire ?

Post by mks » Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:38 am

With Reason you can use your own samples but they need to be recorded as a .wav file already. You can use the NNXT for that. I don't believe you can record them straight in. Sorry, I haven't used Reason for years but this is what I remember. You could use a freeware program like Audacity to record your samples.

As far as Rewire goes, if you do have a DAW that supports it, you will have more options for recording audio and using VST's. What's good about it is you can use Reason just as you would normally and integrate it into your DAW environment.

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Re: Reason rewire ?

Post by ehbes » Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:45 am

Now when you say you recently got reason are you referring to reason 6 because that does have .wav support that doesn't require a sampler.. As far as vst's go reason has the capability to handle what you need to accomplish
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Re: Reason rewire ?

Post by milesgreg46 » Sat Oct 22, 2011 10:31 am

Well I play the guitar, and drums aswell, and am into like other genres of music aside from drum and bass, so using cubase would be good for recording guitar and drums, also I feel like reason is abit of a cheap program, dunno just the impression i'v been given. I don't hear of many big producers using it.

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Re: Reason rewire ?

Post by paravrais » Sat Oct 22, 2011 11:24 am

Everyone is different but personally I'd strongly advise against rewiring. I tried to rewire reason into ableton for about a year and whilst I made some good tunes it really makes the whole process a lot less fun. Even when you have templates set up in each program it's still a major hassle trying to use them both. If you really want to use the reason synths then bouncing to audio and loading that into cubase would be a better option. Or just pick one of them and stick with it till you can get past it's shortcomings.

On another note, if you haven't splashed loads of money out on this yet (I get the impression your not running a legit up to date version of Reason 6 XD) it would be worth demoing ALL the major DAWs to find out which one suits you the best. Yes it's hassle but it really is worth it. You don't want to spend 3 years working in Cubase only to then try Reaper on a friends computer and realise it was what you were destined for all along!!

At least check out; Reaper, Renoise, Ableton, FLStudio and if you have a mac then Logic. If you wanna really go the whole hog there's Sonar, Studio One, Sony Acid(do they still make this?), Nuendo etc etc etc

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Re: Reason rewire ?

Post by ehbes » Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:06 pm

paravrais wrote: it would be worth demoing ALL the major DAWs to find out which one suits you the best.
This.

Also, remember it's not about what daw your favorite producer uses, its about what daw you like best and feel the most comfortable with.
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Re: Reason rewire ?

Post by milesgreg46 » Sat Oct 22, 2011 1:39 pm

I think cubase would suit me the best, i just find it hard to find tutorials, anyone know someone with a good youtube channels who actually produces music on cubase and has some tutorials ?

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Re: Reason rewire ?

Post by DrastikMeazures » Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:06 pm

I use Reason Rewired into Cubase, and I love it, couldn't imagine working any other way. Reason is great for sequencing drums, bass, and some synth stuff, and Rewiring into Cubase allows me to use vst effects and instruments, the best of both worlds imo. As far as using vocal samples, I like to record in Cubase, edit and export to .wav then open the .wav in a reason sampler and trigger it with a Matrix pattern sequencer. Run that to it's own channel in Cubase and put dblue's glitch pluggin on that channel, instant glitchy cut up vox. Lot's 'o' Fun.

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Re: Reason rewire ?

Post by milesgreg46 » Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:44 pm

ah cheers it's just all such a steep learning curve, really confusing, but I bet it will give me allot of satisfaction once I'v mastered a DAW !

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Re: Reason rewire ?

Post by AJGR » Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:28 pm

maybe give Reason a bit more time. it sounds like you don't know what your doing with it. it's just as easy to sample in Reason as it is in Cubase.

what version are you using anyway?

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Re: Reason rewire ?

Post by milesgreg46 » Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:21 am

Na haha i really don't know what I'm doing with it, cubase 5, the thing is i'm really not into the bro step stuff i wanna make like more chilled out stuff like martyn, joy orbison, james blake , phalelah ect, i heard the synths that come on reason are not really suited to that. I really have no clue then, hence me wanting the advice :)

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Re: Reason rewire ?

Post by DrastikMeazures » Sun Oct 23, 2011 2:21 pm

Maybe AJGR's right, you might just want to get to know reason a little better before you even worry about ReWire. Alot of people have opinion's on Reason's "sound" I've never had a problem getting my tune's to sound exactly how I want them. I had a guy tell me one time what a waste of money Reason is and how everything he made in it sounded shit, I played him my latest tune and he said "damn see now what are you using to make this tune"? When I told him the whole thing was done in Reason he had nothing more to say. (not trying to toot my own horn here, just saying sometimes it's operator error that causes Reason to "sound bad")

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