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trying to get more and more away from using samples and practicing all my programming for different layers and goals so im trying to make my own risers.

Anyone have tips on what they do for buildups, transitions, risers, typically made with white noise? Anything you have found layered in or FX that really work well for that cool rushing sound that bulls one section of a tune into the other?

These might be of help;

Making white noise sweeps NOT suck1? - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.p ... ilit=white
Cool things to try with white noise fx? - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.p ... ilit=white

reading... thanks wub

Dont use whit enoise... white noise and square-saw buildups have been dead since house was big.

Reverse an explosion, sample a jet flyby, or edit some footage of the 9/11 attacks or something like that. Rever, delay... be way more interesting then the regular white noise sweep b.s.

don't be a cliche and come up with something new

i was playing about with some, on the song below i had one on a slow attack, filtered and high passed a break with that filtering in too at the same time (Sorry, its drum and bass)
EDIT: Oh and when i was resampling the bass, i put the compressor (or limiter i cant renember) after the reverb, so when the bass ended the reverb went well loud and gave like a bass stab after. i chopped this tail off and reversed it and layered that over the break too

Soundcloud

Its at about the 1:22 mark if you are interested. listening back i wish the break was a little louder in it.

Nowt wrong with white noise risers IMO, yes you can be more creative but white noise risers work just as well and you can be creative with them.

Sidechain them to a silenced 4/4 kick with a long release on the sidechain...gives that pulsing/breathing feel to it. Gradually opening filter, medium length reverb, layer with a small synth patch right at the end to give it some tone.

wub wrote:Sidechain them to a silenced 4/4 kick with a long release on the sidechain...gives that pulsing/breathing feel to it. Gradually opening filter, medium length reverb, layer with a small synth patch right at the end to give it some tone.

hello deadmau5/skrillex

deadly habit wrote:

wub wrote:Sidechain them to a silenced 4/4 kick with a long release on the sidechain...gives that pulsing/breathing feel to it. Gradually opening filter, medium length reverb, layer with a small synth patch right at the end to give it some tone.

hello deadmau5/skrillex

I like to put a leslie simulator on my risers. Mda has a free one that's pretty good. it starts off slow when it hears input and then speeds up, just like a real leslie. You could also try putting it into a strange sounding reverb, there's tons online for weird stuff like vacuum hoses and tin cans, as well as warped reverbs.

Teknicyde wrote:Dont use whit enoise... white noise and square-saw buildups have been dead since house was big.

Reverse an explosion, sample a jet flyby, or edit some footage of the 9/11 attacks or something like that. Rever, delay... be way more interesting then the regular white noise sweep b.s.

Spectrasonics had the same analogy when they released Stylus Rmx back in the day.
Go to any one of the elements included and select the reverse function.
Alter the sample start to give it a slow rise.
Basically end up using large cinematic drum hits reversed, slooooow start and a big booming hit to end with.
Works 100000x better than std white noise or reversed cymbals,snares,etc.

wub wrote:Sidechain them to a silenced 4/4 kick with a long release on the sidechain...gives that pulsing/breathing feel to it. Gradually opening filter, medium length reverb, layer with a small synth patch right at the end to give it some tone.

why dont i think of stuff like this

oh and as for why im not sampling, im trying to program every sound (drums, synths, fx, risers, etc) im using at the moment. I know it sounds dumb, but whatev, im learning lots and have to be more creative. And i never really tried synthesising all my drums. Kinda fun, and feels good to NOT open a fcking vengeance pack

buy them a nice tuxedo!

I think white noise sweep still sounds good but I like to turn the volume way down on it, so that it is only noticeable if you are listening for it. This sort of makes the track "reset" when the new section begins, but you don't really know why.

wub wrote:Sidechain them to a silenced 4/4 kick with a long release on the sidechain...gives that pulsing/breathing feel to it. Gradually opening filter, medium length reverb, layer with a small synth patch right at the end to give it some tone.

I like to create a similar effect by putting a low pass filter and automating in the sort of breathing effect.

Also fun: using FL's 3xosc you can build just a short, simple melody, start with the noise waveform on one oscillator and maybe square or saw on one or two others, then automate the mix.

blinx wrote:buy them a nice tuxedo!

Well played good sir.