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producing and your ego

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 4:36 am
by travis_baker
100% purity?, me personally i feell like a dick sometimes for even trying. i know im far from talented but i really love and enjoy it, although... a little bit of me feels like i am abusing music for my own selfish reasons... does any one think about how the ego can conflict whith production and quality? i like to think you can tell if the tune is made by a head that is swollen.

Anytime there is a struggle between doing what is actually right and doing what seems right, then your ego is interfering with your decision.

Re: producing and your ego

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:43 am
by Khazm
I'm failing to see what you're trying to say here. I don't understand how 'ego' comes into the equation?

Re: producing and your ego

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:21 am
by JFK
Ive re read that post six times. Still dont know what the bally blue blazes you are talking about........

Re: producing and your ego

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:22 am
by jrisreal
Dont understand...will work off the title. Producing and my ego? Well, when I produce something that I like, my ego gains 300 points. nuff said

Re: producing and your ego

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:22 am
by Mad_EP
I don't quite understand the OP - but it is relevant to some conversations I've had with peers and colleagues recently.


Basically - the way I see it, to be a musician - having an ego is necessary. Arrogance is what can become problematic.

For instance - while writing music doesn't involve ego at all... releasing music (paid or free) does. By releasing music that costs money, you are essentially saying that you believe your music to be good enough that people should have to pay to listen to it. That is not a bad thing. It also takes ego (perhaps to a lesser degree) to put it out for free... because while not demanding a price, you are still asking people to give their time to listen to it.

Same goes with performing.

I'll admit (and probably one of the few who will) - but I've got a massive ego. I've been performing classically for about 25 years now, and electronically for about 7. However, I know that I have an ego - that I think my stuff is worth listening to, buying, etc.. which is why I also work so hard. I may be talented, but talent is nothing without putting in the work to support it. So yeah - I charge a decent amount to get booked for a show, but I also prepare and practice for every single set I have ever played. I rehearse my monthly shows on SubFM like crazy - which is part of the reason I don't do rewinds, etc.. I visualize a story I want to tell with my mix, and then bust my ass to create that on a monthly basis.

My Ego is that I think I can sound good - My Discipline is that I bust ass to make sure I always do... and to always have the humility to greatly appreciate those who spend their time or money to experience my music.


Arrogance is where someone thinks they are good enough to do whatever and that no mater what, people should lap it up... even if it is sloppy, thin, and weak.

Re: producing and your ego

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:41 am
by Electric_Head
I get what you`re saying but that shouldn`t be confused with being a production dick.
If you produce music thinking every sound you make is genius you`ll most likely end up producing self-wanking cock cheese.
It`s all subjective.
Produce beats that are at the highest production level and be confident in your ability.
Don`t however think you`re great if all your doing is fist-pumping shit music.

Re: producing and your ego

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:42 am
by Karoshi
Mad EP wrote:Good Reply
I think you do need an ego to get your name known. for example, i dont think i have an ego, i dont think my productions up to scratch so i dont push it. i listen to soundcloud and i sometimes think "man, my stuffs better than this" but they are pushing their music to loads of groups, probably across forums and getting loads of feedback and compliments! at the same time believing that they are a step above the average.

i dunno, i find it hard to put thoughts into words.

but yer, OP, did not get this topic at all :mrgreen:

Re: producing and your ego

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 4:34 pm
by travis_baker
sorry i didnt describe it very well, dont get me wrong but i just think dubstep is one of those genres that has a lot of room for unpureness... ie quotes before drop, fatness, artists names, risers, mass drops etc. i think some people namely me induldge in it at times and forget that its about originality, groove, mixing etc. not cool shit that takes away from other more important aspects of music...

Re: producing and your ego

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 4:41 pm
by Dystinkt
As long as you have a point where you think every song you make is utter shite, your not an arsehole.

Re: producing and your ego

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:38 pm
by Augment
jrisreal wrote:Dont understand...will work off the title. Producing and my ego? Well, when I produce something that I like, my ego gains 300 points. nuff said
:lol:

Re: producing and your ego

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:43 pm
by Dosva
Cheeky wrote:As long as you have a point where you think every song you make is utter shite, your not an arsehole.
And if you're like me, you'll know every tune you produce is utter shit. :corncry:

Re: producing and your ego

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:44 pm
by ketamine
travis baker wrote:100% purity?.
Yes. 100%

Re: producing and your ego

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:08 pm
by -[2]DAY_-
ego in its purest form

Re: producing and your ego

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:09 pm
by atticuh
I'll leave you with two quotes on the topic:

Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity. ~Frank Leahy, Look,10 January 1955

Humility does not mean thinking less of yourself than of other people, nor does it mean having a low opinion of your own gifts. It means freedom from thinking about yourself at all. ~William Temple

Re: producing and your ego

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 8:18 pm
by Pedro Sánchez
I find that stroking it makes it grow.

Re: producing and your ego

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 9:18 pm
by ketamine
Pedro Sánchez wrote:I find that stroking it makes it grow.
-q-


Re: producing and your ego

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:19 pm
by -[2]DAY_-
is that a fap icon or a contemplative icon

i may have been sending the wrong message a few times

Re: producing and your ego

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:49 pm
by blinx
Mad EP wrote: My Ego is that I think I can sound good - My Discipline is that I bust ass to make sure I always do... and to always have the humility to greatly appreciate those who spend their time or money to experience my music.

Arrogance is where someone thinks they are good enough to do whatever and that no mater what, people should lap it up... even if it is sloppy, thin, and weak.
THIs is so on point not even funny. REal talk.

Re: producing and your ego

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:20 pm
by Filthzilla
Ever since I managed to create a YOY bass my ego has been through the roof.

Re: producing and your ego

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 4:25 pm
by deadly_habit
the amount of swanning you do is in direct correlation to how good your music is :6: