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Horsepower: looking for feedback
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 10:12 pm
by tha_illsta
I am Benny ill from Horsepower productions, some of you may have heard of us.
Like us or not, we are currently producing some new material and would like to hear some feedback regarding the content of the future releases we have planned:
1. Vocals in Dubstep- what do people think about having female vocals in dubstep, either singing or MC'ing ( obviously there would be version as well )
2.Half step - is anyone out there interested in beats that are on the old skool tip, or would everyone prefer to hear the more minimal beats
3.Darkness and light - Are people mainly feeling the dark stuff or does anyone think the scene could benefit from a few lighter numbers ( for intro sets, late nights e.t.c. )
As you may already know, Horsepower Productions means music for the people by the people, so your opinions make all the difference. We can make it either this way or that way or any other way you like so.....
Please, please step up and give us all your views, positive or negative
Respect
Benny
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 10:19 pm
by boomnoise
power to the people! honoured to be asked for feedback!
1. Vocals in Dubstep- for me it's all about subtly. anything too overblown ruins the track. i cant realy imagine an mc working over the newsounds i dream about from hp - put it that way.
2.Half step - both in combination. each have their place.
3.Darkness and light - like you say there;s plenty of dark heavy stuff so some lighter stuff would be great, exploring a slightly different dynamic i guess. i'm a big fan of the bounce you get in that sort of stuff but there isnt enough of it.
respect to you benny
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 10:25 pm
by moving_ninja
Given how much of an influence the early horsepower stuff had on me actually getting into this sound, I'd say just do what you do naturally and only good things will from it.
Looking forward to hearing anything thats coming out of the Horsepower studio in future.
Big up
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 10:31 pm
by dubway
ok
i like minimal beats with nice vocal or rude gal MCing

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 10:39 pm
by boomnoise
moving_ninja wrote:Given how much of an influence the early horsepower stuff had on me actually getting into this sound, I'd say just do what you do naturally and only good things will from it.
Looking forward to hearing anything thats coming out of the Horsepower studio in future.
Big up
obviously i echo this statement as well! we all believe in horsepower.
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 10:41 pm
by elgato
I guess what id say is a bit of a sythesis of what these guys said already... first and foremost, obviously massive respect for taking this attitude and throwing it out to the people, but I think what I want to hear is what is natural for you guys, the direction that you want to see the sound to develop. In terms of personal preference I dont really like too much vocal, I like small snippets that augment the instrumental, but then again, I can imagine it working if done correct, which I have every confidence horsepower would!
big up
Re: Horsepower: looking for feedback
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 10:47 pm
by dept of hell science
1. Vocals in Dubstep- what do people think about having female vocals in dubstep, either singing or MC'ing ( obviously there would be version as well )
we did a rmx tune a while ago with femme vox and it worked a treat so I 'd say yeah go for it. Dunno about the MC'ing unless it's someone like sarah jones or maya angelou spitting verse otherwise it's grime or ragga innit ???
2.Half step - is anyone out there interested in beats that are on the old skool tip, or would everyone prefer to hear the more minimal beats
if by old skool you mean funky and real sounding instead of processed and bland then hell yes, we have also been trying to program real sounding drums with a funk feel at a halfstep time and are making some headway
3.Darkness and light - Are people mainly feeling the dark stuff or does anyone think the scene could benefit from a few lighter numbers ( for intro sets, late nights e.t.c. )
always felt the dark stuff but it seems too easy to make given the propensity for darkness in real and virtual life...
...I'd really like to hear somethings that are light and fluffy, that i can lie back in the park and get irie with, look up and think life is good/god is great and not be reminded of the seedy underbelly of urban nightlife like the squalor, the drugs, the violence, the sex, the bullshit glamour blah blah blah
horsepower to the rescue me hopes...
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 10:49 pm
by jim beats
Madness. This scene just keeps on surprising me...
I reckon I would answer 'both' to all your questions. I want minimal, halfstep *and* old skool beats (definitely more old skool beats!) as long as they've got the slink. And I want light and dark, definitely - it's all about the contrast between the two in a set. Not entirely convinced I'd like female vocals in a dubstep tune, but I do like the simple samples that people have used, so if it was suitably understated I can imagine buying it....
Respect to tha illsta - look forward to hearing more from Horsepower!
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:10 pm
by r33lc4sh
god incarnated in this topic

horsepower is back!!
do what u shall do

Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:50 pm
by Jubz
My advice is make what the fuck music you like and dont listen to twats on the internet.
I think vocals can work in the soun but more in a sampled manner ala that MRK1 tune (ready to learn?)
as for the other two, balance is the key, cant have dark without light etetc and some pseudo philosophical bullshit.
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:52 pm
by seckle
Jubscarz wrote:My advice is make what the fuck music you like and dont listen to twats on the internet.
amen.
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:56 pm
by ljn
Looking forward to some new Benni Ill. Without Horsepower productions, Dubstep might never have happened...
Make something that you want to hear at the next DMZ or at Forward. If you do what you want and if you like it, everyone else will probably like it to.
As for the questions, for me half step is where it's at the moment, but the thing about dubstep is that it keeps evolving, so no harm in bringing new sounds or different beats in. Not sure what you mean about oldshool though- if it's like 2step/uk Garage style, I'd vote against, but some of the new 4/4 tunes like Digital Mystikz Anti War Dub are soooo fresh.
Vocals... I wouldn't like to hear "proper songs" as I'm more into the trippy journey through sound, so a song would be distracting for me.
Anything that sounds remotly like Grime is a turn-off for me.
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:56 pm
by dept of hell science
...listen to and respect the twats on the internet !!!
they usually know what they're on about...
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:58 pm
by vibezin
Big up Benny Ill - original innovator.
I'd like to hear all of what you've said above - variety is the spice of life.
I think something with a female vox (not Mcing) from you guys would be very interesting and I'd love you to come with some dark and light shit.... to suit different moods.
But as a couple of other people have said make what your heart feels to and it's bound to be quality.
2006 is gonna big B I G !
Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:58 pm
by bludblikro
well i know he hsnt posted but i tnuc let this one go by unknown. So today was jsu chillin at Jeras lsitenin to sum stepdub lol n he was addin tings to his production n he turns roudn n just goes u heard of horsepower? n i wsa liek errr im scared bt i hav so i'll say yeah. den he switches from badman interogator to giddy lil skool girl n is liek ooo they releasing new thigns n dey so gud n oooo. so from Jera...line-up ur thinking of is looking gud

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:06 am
by logos
Make whatever man.
And make all three of the kinds of tunes you are on about. Variety is the best thing. What makes great DJ sets is being able to blend bumpier, swingy tunes that are deep but uptempo with sparse, militant half-steppers. Thats what makes this music so exciting.
But I do like what Burial is doing and I think there are lots of ideas still left in the swingy format that dubstep should explore.

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:08 am
by rickyricardo
boomnoise wrote:moving_ninja wrote:Given how much of an influence the early horsepower stuff had on me actually getting into this sound, I'd say just do what you do naturally and only good things will from it.
Looking forward to hearing anything thats coming out of the Horsepower studio in future.
Big up
obviously i echo this statement as well! we all believe in horsepower.
thirded.
One thing i would *not* like to hear from Horsepower is sounding like everyone else....the innovators should keep on innovating.
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:15 am
by mrjiggyfly
Listening to Anti War dub as I write ,so
some vocals done right often makes a track.
By the way, will Dj Abstract (Alex P.) be involved in any way????
Peace
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:47 am
by mary anne hobbs
Benny
please hit me wit yr new beatz...
love love love to hear yr work

MP3s to
hobbs07@hotmail.com
via
www.yousendit.com...
major respect n' all love from the Breezelock massiv
m/a.. x
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:54 am
by auralassassin
MC's are a waste of watts. Absolutely no MC's whatsoever.
I like em dark and light, breaky and bassy... it's all up to you, really. I'll make tunes to my specifications and you make them to yours--THEN we decide if we like it, that's how it works.
I'd hate to hear a bunch of pop tunes, mate... make tunes that make YOU wanna shake ya ass.