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World Music Influence In Dubstep

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:40 am
by overdose
Over the years, I've listened to a lot of electronic/instrumental music. However, I find that in Dubstep the world music influence is very prevalent, in comparison to all else I've heard. I thoroughly enjoy the oriental, middle eastern Dubstep tracks. I realize that music need not have any rhyme or reason in it's creation and for that reason alone my question may rightfully remain unanswered. However, I am still just curious, as to where it comes from and why and would appreciate any constructive comments. Maybe just because it seems to fit the tone and structure of the music so well? Facts? Ideas? Garidge? Horsepower?

Re: World Music Influence In Dubstep

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:22 am
by dub id
Overdose wrote:However, I am still just curious, as to where it comes from and why and would appreciate any constructive comments. Maybe just because it seems to fit the tone and structure of the music so well? Facts? Ideas? Garidge? Horsepower?
You do have to credit those trailblazers Horsepower for adding both an Eastern/South Asian and also the cinematic samples edge. However, it should be noted that Jamaican dub masters like Augustus Pablo and Mad Professor have also incorporated African, South Asian and other world influences into their music. But truthfully, dubstep is the ultimate of fusions: its jagged-half step beats owe something to Timbaland, who in turn was sampling Lata Mangeshkar etc...hindipop, bhangra etc..., but it owes to dub that gets its percussion elements from Africa and the Caribbean. Not to mention global music of all kinds is reaching a larger audience. Cultures influencing each other non-exclusively as far as I can see.

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 7:17 pm
by shards
The Subcontinent: pioneering Hypercussion & complex rhythmic since a few millennia BC :wink:

Re: World Music Influence In Dubstep

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:08 am
by benj b
Dub ID wrote:However, it should be noted that Jamaican dub masters like Augustus Pablo and Mad Professor have also incorporated African, South Asian and other world influences into their music.

Mad Professor isn't Jamaican - born in Guyana and moved to london when he was a kid.

I think what's interesting is that thanks to the internet, music can spread around super fast - you can make a tune where you live, and if it's good it could be playing on the radio or in a club halfway across the world within a week. People have more access to "obscure" music via online record shops or filesharing, and so this filters more easily into whatever you happen to be making.

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 4:13 pm
by crazydave
I think dubstep gives "world" or ethnic samples more room to breathe. Combining them with traditional /blippy electro sounds less coherent, and in D&B the samples tend to get drowned out or simply lost in the atmospherics.

Big up pan-global musicality wherever it appears. :!:

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 1:27 pm
by numaestro
No such thing as "world music" really. It's just a term to denote music which is "other" to the mainstream popular music and its derivatives. Pop music in the Anglo-saxon world is dominated by afro-american and to a lesser extent afro-caribean musics (very often expropriated and diluted to reach a wider market)

Visiting "other" locations is a sure source of inspiration I reckon

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 1:47 pm
by Littlefoot
i refuse to believe "world music" exists, its one of the most retarded ideas ever

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:49 am
by overdose
Yes, maybe "world music" wasn't the best phrase to use, but it's still clear what I'm getting at: Instrumentation traditional to other geographical locations. Thanks for all the comments, thus far.

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 4:11 am
by jaggi
i think it boils down to the drums... syncopated organic drums like the tablas or congas really works well in dubstep in addition to snare-less d&b. once in that musical/cultural context using other exotic instruments such as sitar, chinese mandolin, or even harmonium really complements the style.

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:21 am
by numaestro
Look out for "Global Steps" compilation dropping next couple of weeks on Agriculture Records.
Plenty of dubstep on this type of tip. Trust me.

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:12 pm
by shards
^^^
Dhruva & Sharmaji's Koli Stance on that one?

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:16 pm
by ifp
bongos!

i reckon some of the "ethnic" sampling can be a bit cheesy, but shackleton definately gets it right, as well as distance/fallen

and i love the "jungle sounds" tunes - monsoon, and amazon and congo off tempa allstars 2

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:29 pm
by numaestro
Shards wrote:^^^
Dhruva & Sharmaji's Koli Stance on that one?
Don't know. I'll post a full tracklist when I get it.

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:37 pm
by tom_bass
shackleton is more into goblet drums than bongos, unless i'm deaf :p

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:19 am
by xzentradi
My mix entitled "Shift HappenXZ" will take you on a journey round the earth for sure.

http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t ... =xzenmasta

I will also have a new one out soon entitled "KataklyXZmik" which will incorporate the darker worldly sounds. Look out for it in the mixes section.

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 6:18 am
by alien pimp
"world music" is a name given by people who can't handle geography
it's easier to remember than "music that sounds exotic to ignorants"

or maybe some countries are not from this world, that's why their music is not "world music"

Re: World Music Influence In Dubstep

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 8:10 am
by thinking
Dub ID wrote:Horsepower?
You do have to credit those trailblazers Horsepower for adding both an Eastern/South Asian and also the cinematic samples edge.[/quote]

there's an amazing new remix of Lee Perry by Horsepower that's dropping soon, chock-full of Indian flavours. Really really good. :4:

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 3:12 pm
by Sharmaji
yeah shackleton is all about the doumbeks and daraboukas and middle-eastern/north african tablah.

Global Steps is finally coming out???? We signed up "Backwater Dub" 2 years ago, before we'd solidified the Sub Swara naming plan. Koli Stance isn't on there but there's some fantastic, fantastic deep dubstep on that comp. Couple of tunes that fell thru the cracks, as well, should hopefully get a 2nd chance.

Re: World Music Influence In Dubstep

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:12 pm
by bandshell
ThinKing wrote:there's an amazing new remix of Lee Perry by Horsepower that's dropping soon, chock-full of Indian flavours. Really really good. :4:
looking forward to hearing this horsepower remix :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 4:45 pm
by -dubson-
Joe C wrote:i refuse to believe "world music" exists, its one of the most retarded ideas ever
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