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MikeyOhh
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Automation

Post by MikeyOhh » Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:33 pm

Hi, I've recently got into electronic music production, and started off playing around with Audiotool.

I've decided I would like to try something more technical and was wondering if there are any DAW's that use a similar automation tool (where you can cut up an automation line and loop a certain line in that block).

I've been using an Ableton demo and I can't see this sort of function on there.

I hope this makes sense. Thanks for any feedback

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Re: Automation

Post by Eridu » Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:08 pm

you can cut up automation clips in FL studio

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Re: Automation

Post by Jas0n » Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:11 pm

I'm not exactly sure if I understand completely what you're looking for when you say "loop a certain line in that block" ... however, in FL Studio, once you've drawn an automation clip, you can use the razor tool to chop up your automation into pieces which can be moved, shortened, placed wherever you'd like, duplicated, et cetera. If you will accept the creation of a clip then the placement of that clip as many times as you'd like in the playlist as looping, then FL Studio meets your needs.
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Re: Automation

Post by Jas0n » Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:11 pm

Eridu wrote:you can cut up automation clips in FL studio
Shit.
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Re: Automation

Post by Eridu » Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:21 pm

Jas0n wrote:
Eridu wrote:you can cut up automation clips in FL studio
Shit.
i win.

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Re: Automation

Post by Autonation » Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:28 pm

um i think this is possible in all daws its just a matter of precise copy and pasting of the automation track. but in saying that it can get messy. Sometimes i will resample the part with the automation and then use it insted of using so many lines and whatnot (after all of my editing is complete of course). :)
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Re: Automation

Post by MikeyOhh » Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:42 pm

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I hope this clears up what I mean..

The orange bar highlighted between 19 - 20 is part of the line that has been chopped, and the area of the automation that is highlighted is the part that is looped through the specific bar.

Sorry I'm a complete newbie to this so don't really know or understand the terms used. Is this the sort of thing you can do on FL?

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Re: Automation

Post by Autonation » Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:01 pm

Im not sure about fruity loops and this seems like a nice feature. but in cubase its much different you would have to spilt it, loop or sample. but it all depends on what meets your needs if flstudio has that feature you want then go with that but in saying that there is alot of great technical features in daws other then fl you might find later on in your producing you may want some of these features im talking about (but fl is great dont get me wrong and lots of awesome producers use it).

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Re: Automation

Post by Jas0n » Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:28 pm

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I hope this clears up what I mean..

The orange bar highlighted between 19 - 20 is part of the line that has been chopped, and the area of the automation that is highlighted is the part that is looped through the specific bar.

Sorry I'm a complete newbie to this so don't really know or understand the terms used. Is this the sort of thing you can do on FL?
Okay I see. The answer is yes.

In FL, there's a grid called the Playlist through which of course time runs horizontally, as evidently in the software you have, and - again like what you've got - your automation work on any one given parameter would occupy a track (tracks stacking vertically of course). In FL Studio, what you'd do if you wanted to repeat a portion of an automation, is: you'd draw the automation however you want (there are various ways). Then you'd use the Slice tool to cut out the particular piece you want to manipulate. Then you'd use either the pencil tool or paintbrush tool to put however many occurrences of the sliced piece of automation you want, where you want them. (If you do the paintbrush, it'll fill as you drag down the timeline, so... looping!) Then of course the cool thing about each of these little sliced off pieces of your automation ... they'll work just fine as they are, but if you decide at one point that the piece you chopped was too short, you can drag the end of the slice out, and it will "uncover" whatever automation work was there in the original piece.

So like, if this sentence were an automation clip, you could use the slice tool to grab everything, say, between the first and second comma, and you would have this.

if this sentence were an automation clip,

Which you could then loop using the paintbrush tool to look like so:

if this sentence were an automation clip, if this sentence were an automation clip, if this sentence were an automation clip,

...and if you decided you wanted a bit more in there somewhere, you could just drag the end of the sliced clip once in a while (and re-slice!) to wind up with something like,

if this sentence were if this se if this se if this sentence were if this se if if if So like, So like, if this sentence were an automation clip, you would you would have this.

I'll get you screenies if you want to see this done. And, sorry if this seems kind of overboard... I really am amazed by the automation stuff though, the tools are amazing as hell to me 'cause I'm kinda old, but even though I feel like the software is worth every penny, I don't blame a person for being ambivalent about dropping three bills on it.
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Re: Automation

Post by MikeyOhh » Sun Dec 18, 2011 12:03 am

@jas0n

No need to trouble yourself any further than you already have, I'll check out fl in the morning and have a play. Thanks everyone

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