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Got assulted by the police last night, Need advice
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:24 pm
by jameshk
So last night my mate got nicked, deservedly. dont know the full story but he has a tendency to be a prick and start on people when he's pissed. Now I was acted as a witness, I told him to stick to no comment and not talk until there is a lawyer present. The police didn't like that and served me some kind of notice to leave kingston town center within 15 minutes or i could face a 2.5k fine, and then started pushing me pretty violently. they then get even more angry when i asked for their names and badge number, and even started covering them up.
Im PISSED off, I want some kind of repercussion to happen. There is cctv evidence im pretty sure, kingston is covered. "I have one of the officers names. What should my next plan of action be, I feel like i've been served a serious injustice here.
Any advice would be greatly received.
Safe!
Re: Got assulted by the police last night, Need advice
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:27 pm
by magma
Write a letter to the Police Complaints Commission, but it might be worth having a chat to Citizen's Advice Bureau (or a lawyer if you can afford/know one) first... they should be able to help you organise what you need to say a bit.
If you haven't got any lasting injuries, it might be a bit difficult as without video evidence (always get your phones out and start filming as soon as the Police talk to you, kids)
Re: Got assulted by the police last night, Need advice
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:31 pm
by jameshk
magma wrote:Write a letter to the Police Complaints Commission, but it might be worth having a chat to Citizen's Advice Bureau (or a lawyer if you can afford/know one) first... they should be able to help you organise what you need to say a bit.
If you haven't got any lasting injuries, it might be a bit difficult as without video evidence (always get your phones out and start filming as soon as the Police talk to you, kids)
Guess i'll start writing. Im pretty sure there would've been cctv evidence, there's so many cameras all over kingston. Unfortunately filming is not an option for me because im rocking one of these.

Re: Got assulted by the police last night, Need advice
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:36 pm
by magma
jameshk wrote:magma wrote:Write a letter to the Police Complaints Commission, but it might be worth having a chat to Citizen's Advice Bureau (or a lawyer if you can afford/know one) first... they should be able to help you organise what you need to say a bit.
If you haven't got any lasting injuries, it might be a bit difficult as without video evidence (always get your phones out and start filming as soon as the Police talk to you, kids)
Guess i'll start writing. Im pretty sure there would've been cctv evidence, there's so many cameras all over kingston. Unfortunately filming is not an option for me because im rocking one of these.

Give the CAB a call first and see what they say... they might know who you need to speak to to get the CCTV footage (or might be able to say whether you're going to be flogging a dead horse).
http://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/index/getadvice.htm
Re: Got assulted by the police last night, Need advice
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:41 pm
by noam
you were probably pissed/intoxicated and wont stand a chance at corroborating any kind of story with witnesses about what was said during the confrontation
basically if there's only one police on the scene and one of you they always call for back up because it's your word against there's in court
if there's more of you there'll be more police, so that each one can back the other in court in order to convict as witnesses to whatever crime
if it was you and 10 police, good luck mate
not to sound harsh, but i've been there, its not worth the effort, least you didn't get arrested
Re: Got assulted by the police last night, Need advice
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:01 pm
by jameshk
Called the CAB, no one is there until the 3rd which is a bit shit. I was pissed but not too pissed, I remember most of what was said.
Might have to leave this one, which im not happy about.
Re: Got assulted by the police last night, Need advice
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:05 pm
by clifford_-
the met are the biggest bunch of stnuc known to man. youll probably get nowhere with this. wernt in the hippo last night were you?
Re: Got assulted by the police last night, Need advice
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:07 pm
by jameshk
clifford_- wrote:the met are the biggest bunch of stnuc known to man. youll probably get nowhere with this. wernt in the hippo last night were you?
City of london police are worse, They accused me of being a terrorist hahah. I wasn't in hippodrome but I was around ad about town, was gona go in but my heads wern't up for it.
Re: Got assulted by the police last night, Need advice
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:10 pm
by clifford_-
yea they had some house/garage/dnb/jungle thing on in there, apparantly it was deadout.
dont COL police form part of the met anyways?
still its a pisstake, what did they actually do to you? just push you?
Re: Got assulted by the police last night, Need advice
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:13 pm
by jameshk
clifford_- wrote:yea they had some house/garage/dnb/jungle thing on in there, apparantly it was deadout.
dont COL police form part of the met anyways?
still its a pisstake, what did they actually do to you? just push you?
ahh fair, probably best i didn't then haha.
I think COL are seperate, they're millitant stnuc though.
They pushed me quite a few times trying to provoke me.
Re: Got assulted by the police last night, Need advice
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:19 pm
by magma
jameshk wrote:I think COL are seperate, they're millitant stnuc though.
They are seperate, yeah... Met cover everything but the City and ultimately answer to the Mayor, the City police get a lot more independence and only really answer to the Home Office.
Supposedly they're the country's experts on fraud, corporate crime and terrorism but anyone that's ever had any contact with them will tell you that a CoL Bobby is more likely to reach for his baton than any other copper. Generally, they are utter,
utter stnuc.
Re: Got assulted by the police last night, Need advice
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:21 pm
by jameshk
magma wrote:jameshk wrote:I think COL are seperate, they're millitant stnuc though.
They are seperate, yeah... Met cover everything but the City and ultimately answer to the Mayor, the City police get a lot more independence and only really answer to the Home Office.
Supposedly they're the country's experts on fraud, corporate crime and terrorism but anyone that's ever had any contact with them will tell you that a CoL Bobby is more likely to reach for his baton than any other copper. Generally, they are utter,
utter stnuc.
On the general stike day I was coming back from the march to st pauls, they ran down the street after me, threw me against a wall and illegally searched me. Because apparently I was a known terrorist. Experts?! Yeah right...
Re: Got assulted by the police last night, Need advice
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:06 pm
by Y_H
So, what was your mate up to to grab the polices attention?
Re: Got assulted by the police last night, Need advice
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:09 pm
by jameshk
matthewcradduck wrote:So, what was your mate up to to grab the polices attention?
Knowing him probably starting on someone, he can be a cock when pissed.
Re: Got assulted by the police last night, Need advice
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:29 pm
by DrSpliff
Ofcourse they pushed you around. In my country if I said that to a policeman he'd throw me in the back of van, drive me somewhere quiet and beat the shit out of me. Consider yourself lucky man. It's not right but it's just the way police roll.
Re: Got assulted by the police last night, Need advice
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:34 pm
by jazzamataz
My advice...
Smoke, eat, play some games, watch some tv.
You won't get far with this. K'town is littered with CCTV, but you'd
be lucky to get hold of the footage. Police hold the cards on this one.
If you really do feel THAT strongly about it - as magma said, go to the CAB.
They'll be able to help you but they'll probably also state it's a bit pointless trying.
Re: Got assulted by the police last night, Need advice
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:38 pm
by Y_H
Tbf i'd hate to be a policemen dealing with pissed up people.
Re: Got assulted by the police last night, Need advice
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:02 pm
by clifford_-
DrSpliff wrote:Ofcourse they pushed you around. In my country if I said that to a policeman he'd throw me in the back of van, drive me somewhere quiet and beat the shit out of me. Consider yourself lucky man. It's not right but it's just the way police roll.
its the law that they have to tell you theyre name and number if asked.
if we are supposed to live by the letter of the law, then so are they. no double standards.
Re: Got assulted by the police last night, Need advice
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:50 pm
by wobbles
got tossed around by cops up in shithole albany for no reason, just brush it off
Re: Got assulted by the police last night, Need advice
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 6:16 pm
by DrSpliff
clifford_- wrote:DrSpliff wrote:Ofcourse they pushed you around. In my country if I said that to a policeman he'd throw me in the back of van, drive me somewhere quiet and beat the shit out of me. Consider yourself lucky man. It's not right but it's just the way police roll.
its the law that they have to tell you theyre name and number if asked.
if we are supposed to live by the letter of the law, then so are they. no double standards.
For sure they're supposed to, but the reality is that they don't. I know this from experience. Cops can get away with shitloads. Remember that its the end of the year and cops are trying to get their arrest numbers for the year up so that they can make really good statistics, and brag to their cop friends how copular they are... Mabye it's different where you guys are from.