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Prog dubstep?

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:38 am
by subfect
I'm not sure how many of you know what progressive actually means in electronica, but those who do and know what I'm talking about - do you know of any artists that follow this kind of format in their tunes and sets?

Re: Prog dubstep?

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:23 pm
by Killamike49
What do you mean by progressive?

Re: Prog dubstep?

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:50 pm
by blinx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressiv ... onic_music
In electronic dance music (EDM) [1] the term progressive is often used to denote a novel stylistic development within a specific genre of dance music. According to the DJ and producer Carl Craig, the term "progressive" was used in Detroit in the early 80s in reference to Italo Disco. The music was dubbed "progressive" because it drew upon the influence of Giorgio Moroder's Eurodisco rather than the Disco inspired by the symphonic sound of Philadelphia soul. In the late 1980s UK music journalist Simon Reynolds introduced the term "progressive dance" to describe album oriented acts such as 808 State, The Orb, Bomb the Bass, and The Shamen.[2]

Between 1990 to 1992, Progressive referred to the short-form buzz word for the House music sub-genre Progressive House.[3] Roots of Progressive House can be traced back to the 1990 to 1992 rave and club scene in England, Scotland, Canada, America, Ibiza, and mainland Europe. A combination of US House, UK House, Italian House, European Techno, and Trance largely influenced one another during this era.[4] The term was used mainly as a marketing label to differentiate new rave House from traditional American House.[5] The buzz word emerged out of the rave scene around 1990 to 1992, describing a new sound of House that broke away from its American roots.[6] The label Progressive House was often used interchangeably with Trance in the early years.[7]

Re: Prog dubstep?

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 10:11 pm
by wearecorsairs
give me a month or two

Re: Prog dubstep?

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:00 pm
by cheshirebeats
I've always been a huge fan of progressive music.
Porcupine Tree, Pink Floyd, Mars Volta, Roy Harper, Led Zeppelin, Totakeke, BoC... They've arguably influenced me more than any dub step producer or EDM artist. I love psychedelia and I love progressive stuff.
When I was playing piano a lot I tried to take a more progressive and innovative approach, always working modally or adding weird bits, going in and out of key or playing dub step basslines on piano, just because it was fun and different.
If my music ever gets to the point where I'm happy with what I'm creating and feel like I'm fulfilling my vision, it'll be stuff that nobody has ever heard before. But thats a ways off... Need to get some generic dub step going first and then once I hit a decent level of production I'll start experimenting. Have to learn the rules before you break them :D
Its kind of silly to define progressive in an EDM sense only because it means the same thing across the board. Bringing something new.

Re: Prog dubstep?

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:06 am
by Killamike49
So is it like all progressive house is trance, but not ll trance or progressive house or something> Haha.

Re: Prog dubstep?

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:42 am
by makemerich
I do. Soundcloud.com/killeveryone listen to the rhcp remix. Mars voltage is a big influence, msi, etc.

Re: Prog dubstep?

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:38 am
by atticuh
makemerich wrote:Mars voltage is a big influence, msi, etc.

I'm not trying to troll, but I'm assuming you mean MARS VOLTA.

Secondly, when you say MSI are you referring to MINDLESS SELF INDULGENCE?

Because that is definitely not progressive. If you're talking about the MSI that comes to my mind, their music is not worth the plastic/bytes they're released upon (mainly because the composition and lyrics are piss poor and rely upon shock tactics to promote to their demographic which happens to be adolescents), and even mistakenly associating "progressive" music with MSI is offensive to me as it trivializes ACTUAL prog.

You can't really compare artists like Dream Theater or Porcupine Tree (or even Mars Volta) to a bunch of clowns that can barely put together a I-IV-V progression.

To the OP: check out EOTO. As far as composition, they remind me of a progressive band. From what I understand, they're an exclusively live EDM band, much like a old school jam band. They record their live sets and sell the records via digital release. 8)

Re: Prog dubstep?

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:53 am
by hutyluty
Anything with the word prog in the genre title is automatically shit.

Nothing annoys me more than random jamming for 25 minutes and peopel dressed as wizards (that's what prog is, don't try and argue :corndance: )

Re: Prog dubstep?

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:55 am
by wub
I quite like prog house, between us my housemate and I have pretty much the whole Global Underground series, and they often get a play at afterparty sessions when neither of us can be bothered to mix.

Re: Prog dubstep?

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:19 pm
by hutyluty
Never got into prog house whatsoever, too many pianos, plus i think i was pu off by my social conditioning to hate anything prog

Re: Prog dubstep?

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:22 pm
by wub
hutyluty wrote:Never got into prog house whatsoever, too many pianos, plus i think i was pu off by my social conditioning to hate anything prog

Pianos :|


Not too sure about that - if you can, get yourself a copy of Sasha GU : Ibiza. It's as close to perfect as a prog house mix album can get IMO.


And no pianos ;)

Re: Prog dubstep?

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:39 pm
by hutyluty
from a quick scout it sounds like the stuff that scuba has been making (which i still dont like :corndance: ) but is definitely an improvement on what i was thinking..



which i think is probably trance

or this


Re: Prog dubstep?

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:51 pm
by wub
Also, this is epic;




Now that I think of it, this song is one of the reasons I love using delayed bongo patterns in my tunes :lol:

Re: Prog dubstep?

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:37 pm
by atticuh
hutyluty wrote:Nothing entertains me more than random jamming for 25 minutes and peopel dressed as wizards (that's what prog is, don't try and argue :corndance: )
Fixed

I might even dress up as a wizard for my first live set.

Re: Prog dubstep?

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:37 pm
by Earjax
maybe try to take inspiration from progressive house :) I'm writing a pretty progressive tune at the moment for my A level composition and it literally just sounds gay as hell but the examiners love it, this is a really good piece of progressive dubstep but the only one I know of: