Clash wrote:
“In my opinion, UKG has made a recent comeback in the clubs and on radio because it’s been away just long enough for it to come back fresh. Next year we’ll see a lot more. A lot of teens these days were small children when the first wave of UKG happened. But now it’s brand new to them, even all the old classics. Producers are returning to the 2-step sound for a number of reasons: this music has been made cool again because of its history as a precursor to dubstep, so more producers have listened to old El-B and Wookie productions and have been inspired to make their own brand.
I think as long as what we’re hearing is quality then there shouldn’t be a problem with this revival. The problems come when pop producers start producing cheese with a 2-step beat. Then it all goes a bit wrong. Back in the mid-2000s money and greed ruined it.
Back then the serious names were Steve Gurley, Tuff Jam, Groove Chronicles, MJ Cole, Wookie and Oris Jay. These guys were innovators. They would always try to push it forwards. Push the boundaries percussively, but still remain 100% musical. Now the names to watch out for are Terror Danjah, Mosca, Boddika, Joy Orbison, Pearson Sound, Mike Delinquent and DVA. They all have production levels that are much higher than back in the day. Tracks are getting louder and brighter sounding.
What I love about this music is that new styles are always around the corner. Obviously we have retro comebacks and that’s cool, but I’m on about the truly new sounds that appear out of nowhere. James Blake and Skrillex both came out of the dubstep scene to create completely unique and totally different sounds. A few years ago you wouldn’t have seen that coming. The new technology allows us to push the envelope further and further - so the possibilities are now endless.”
ClashMusic
Re: Zeb Bias on garage
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:55 pm
by wub
Did Zed Bias just name check Skrillex?
Re: Zeb Bias on garage
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:18 pm
by ultraspatial
wub wrote:Did Zed Bias just name check Skrillex?
Yes...
And I don't see how Terror Danjah, Mosca, Boddika, Joy Orbison, Pearson Sound, Mike Delinquent and DVA are garage.
Re: Zeb Bias on garage
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:31 pm
by skimpi
wub wrote:Did Zed Bias just name check Skrillex?
Even if we dont like him, you have to say he is the main guy behind that filth sound now. All he said was Skrillex and James Blake are classed as Dubstep but have a totally different sound.
ultraspatial wrote:
wub wrote:Did Zed Bias just name check Skrillex?
Yes...
And I don't see how Terror Danjah, Mosca, Boddika, Joy Orbison, Pearson Sound, Mike Delinquent and DVA are garage.
I spose he means a new slightly garagey sound? None of them have done full out 2-step tracks though haha
Re: Zeb Bias on garage
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:59 pm
by the_disconekt
nice.
Re: Zeb Bias on garage
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:07 pm
by Soiree
Love Maddslinky! Caught him with Ramadanman last winter.
Re: Zeb Bias on garage
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:46 pm
by wolf89
skimpi wrote:
wub wrote:Did Zed Bias just name check Skrillex?
Even if we dont like him, you have to say he is the main guy behind that filth sound now. All he said was Skrillex and James Blake are classed as Dubstep but have a totally different sound.
ultraspatial wrote:
wub wrote:Did Zed Bias just name check Skrillex?
Yes...
And I don't see how Terror Danjah, Mosca, Boddika, Joy Orbison, Pearson Sound, Mike Delinquent and DVA are garage.
I spose he means a new slightly garagey sound? None of them have done full out 2-step tracks though haha
This is garage far as I'm concerned
Re: Zeb Bias on garage
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:56 pm
by wobbles
Most certainly ^
Re: Zeb Bias on garage
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:58 pm
by skimpi
wolf89 wrote:
skimpi wrote:
wub wrote:Did Zed Bias just name check Skrillex?
Even if we dont like him, you have to say he is the main guy behind that filth sound now. All he said was Skrillex and James Blake are classed as Dubstep but have a totally different sound.
ultraspatial wrote:
wub wrote:Did Zed Bias just name check Skrillex?
Yes...
And I don't see how Terror Danjah, Mosca, Boddika, Joy Orbison, Pearson Sound, Mike Delinquent and DVA are garage.
I spose he means a new slightly garagey sound? None of them have done full out 2-step tracks though haha
This is garage far as I'm concerned
I always forget about these tunes haha, it was like a massive release, but i never got it, and keep forgetting about it haha
Re: Zeb Bias on garage
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:04 pm
by joeki
yes, now get me a boddika garage track
Seriously, he's just checking names there. Joy Orbison made garage two years ago yes. A few of them fall near to UKG (like mosca) but most of that has little to do with Garage. Having said that, they are fresh names doing fresh things, so there's some general truth to it all.
Re: Zeb Bias on garage
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:43 pm
by 55stevieboy2010
tbh i hope it happens, the swamp81 thing is doing nothing for me whatsoever
plus it isnt even 'swamp81 sound' its house and techno pure and simple
Re: Zeb Bias on garage
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:12 pm
by skimpi
55stevieboy2010 wrote:tbh i hope it happens, the swamp81 thing is doing nothing for me whatsoever
plus it isnt even 'swamp81 sound' its house and techno pure and simple
Have you checked out the forthcoming mickey pearce release on swamp? I'd say thats a bit different from the other stuff released on there.
Re: Zeb Bias on garage
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:16 pm
by fractal
55stevieboy2010 wrote:tbh i hope it happens, the swamp81 thing is doing nothing for me whatsoever
plus it isnt even 'swamp81 sound' its house and techno pure and simple
couldn't disagree more
Re: Zeb Bias on garage
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:21 pm
by wobbles
skimpi wrote:
55stevieboy2010 wrote:tbh i hope it happens, the swamp81 thing is doing nothing for me whatsoever
plus it isnt even 'swamp81 sound' its house and techno pure and simple
Have you checked out the forthcoming mickey pearce release on swamp? I'd say thats a bit different from the other stuff released on there.
Not to mention pinch's latest release. Listen to get out of here
Re: Zeb Bias on garage
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:23 pm
by fractal
exactly, swamp have a very wide range of sounds coming out. people tend to focus on just a few releases and forget
Re: Zeb Bias on garage
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:49 pm
by twothirdsmajority
You know, Garage is making a comeback,
but it's way different from the old UKG/2-step that came from the 90's.
WHy? Because the newer, fresher form of Garage is basically defined with this tune:
This tune right here is what will definitely bring people into Garage.We no longer hear chipmunk voices and RnB hooks, but instead we get sub-bass and amazing synthlines. And the fact that it's a remix of an Above & Beyond tune by MJ Cole proved that people are opening up to Garage music. When even someone like A&B are approaching Garage producers for remixes, then it's saying something about the Garage revival scene. Producers like Submerse, Resketch, Boddika, Swamp, Whistla, L-Vis 1990 helped thrive this "Future Garage" sound that will definitely bring in people to the sound, and such a scene has also given us the glorious returns of MJ Cole and Zed Bias, so maybe we might see the return of Club Asylum and the Artful Dodger, hopefully.
And we'll definitely see more of this. Zed Bias is definitely right. And it feels good man.
Re: Zeb Bias on garage
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:08 pm
by 55stevieboy2010
wobbles wrote:
skimpi wrote:
55stevieboy2010 wrote:tbh i hope it happens, the swamp81 thing is doing nothing for me whatsoever
plus it isnt even 'swamp81 sound' its house and techno pure and simple
Have you checked out the forthcoming mickey pearce release on swamp? I'd say thats a bit different from the other stuff released on there.
Not to mention pinch's latest release. Listen to get out of here
aight man fair play that pinch tunes sick, i guess im just talking about the housey/techno side of things, i just cant feel it
Re: Zeb Bias on garage
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:27 pm
by wolf89
twothirdsmajority wrote:You know, Garage is making a comeback,
but it's way different from the old UKG/2-step that came from the 90's.
WHy? Because the newer, fresher form of Garage is basically defined with this tune:
This tune right here is what will definitely bring people into Garage.We no longer hear chipmunk voices and RnB hooks, but instead we get sub-bass and amazing synthlines. And the fact that it's a remix of an Above & Beyond tune by MJ Cole proved that people are opening up to Garage music. When even someone like A&B are approaching Garage producers for remixes, then it's saying something about the Garage revival scene. Producers like Submerse, Resketch, Boddika, Swamp, Whistla, L-Vis 1990 helped thrive this "Future Garage" sound that will definitely bring in people to the sound, and such a scene has also given us the glorious returns of MJ Cole and Zed Bias, so maybe we might see the return of Club Asylum and the Artful Dodger, hopefully.
And we'll definitely see more of this. Zed Bias is definitely right. And it feels good man.
This tune is fucking terrible
Re: Zeb Bias on garage
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:34 pm
by garethom
twothirdsmajority wrote:Producers like Submerse, Resketch, Boddika, Swamp, Whistla, L-Vis 1990 helped thrive this "Future Garage" sound that will definitely bring in people to the sound, and such a scene has also given us the glorious returns of MJ Cole and Zed Bias, so maybe we might see the return of Club Asylum and the Artful Dodger, hopefully.
And we'll definitely see more of this. Zed Bias is definitely right. And it feels good man.
Artful Dodger is making tunes again.
I love UKG, but it had a time and place. Might just be being nostalgic, but it was THE sound of the late 90's/early 00's, one of my favourite periods of music ever, I dunno, just don't think you could recapture that. The sound has moved on, the classics have stood the test of time, lets not go back and drag through it because people are saying certain producers are relevant again. MJ Cole and Zed Bias are both making tunes that don't sound anything like what they were making 10 years ago.
REFLEX ACTION LIKE A SNAKE, LIKE A SNAKE, LIKE A SNAKE, LIKE A SNAKE, LIKE A SNAKE..... ACTION ACTIONACTIONACTION
Re: Zeb Bias on garage
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:15 am
by twothirdsmajority
wolf89 wrote:
twothirdsmajority wrote:You know, Garage is making a comeback,
but it's way different from the old UKG/2-step that came from the 90's.
WHy? Because the newer, fresher form of Garage is basically defined with this tune:
This tune right here is what will definitely bring people into Garage.We no longer hear chipmunk voices and RnB hooks, but instead we get sub-bass and amazing synthlines. And the fact that it's a remix of an Above & Beyond tune by MJ Cole proved that people are opening up to Garage music. When even someone like A&B are approaching Garage producers for remixes, then it's saying something about the Garage revival scene. Producers like Submerse, Resketch, Boddika, Swamp, Whistla, L-Vis 1990 helped thrive this "Future Garage" sound that will definitely bring in people to the sound, and such a scene has also given us the glorious returns of MJ Cole and Zed Bias, so maybe we might see the return of Club Asylum and the Artful Dodger, hopefully.
And we'll definitely see more of this. Zed Bias is definitely right. And it feels good man.
This tune is fucking terrible
Have it your way dude.
A good Garage refix of a mediocre Trance tune is hard to come by.