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USA guy on pcp shot 10x attempting to assault a officer

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:39 am
by RandoRando
warning video is kind of graphic i guess.

just want to see what you UK guys think of this after reading the top comment "if this was in the UK they would have 10 officers jump on him, no shots fired" bla bla

i think the cop had every right to shoot, the other officer was defenseless putting his tazer gun away, and the other cop didnt want to release to dog because he the guy had a big ass weapon.

the guy was a damn superhuman on pcp, a fuckin tazer to the face and he just pulls them right out.

i think the cop did the right thing.

delete if inappropriate for the forum IDK

Re: USA guy on pcp shot 10x attempting to assault a officer

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:43 am
by wub
Did they tazer him in the face and he didn't go down?

Re: USA guy on pcp shot 10x attempting to assault a officer

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:46 am
by scspkr99
I can't watch this in work but I noticed with the other thread a tendency for pro right to bare arms supporters to use a very specific example as a reason why the right should remain a right.

I'm not a fan of having legislation framed by specific incidents, it can be ok for someone to use a gun in certain circumstances without gun ownership being ok, same with the police, it's obviously fine for an armed police office to use his gun in certain circumstances it doesn't mean I want or support an armed police force

Re: USA guy on pcp shot 10x attempting to assault a officer

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:10 pm
by hayze99
Why wasn't he naked?

Clearly not enough PCP to warrant being shot.

Seriously though, I do think the officer was actually in the right this time. One second more and the other cop would have had a sledgehammer (?) to the face.

And the camera guys act so fucking non-chalant about just witnessing a man getting shot to death.

Re: USA guy on pcp shot 10x attempting to assault a officer

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:20 pm
by z6z
hayze99 wrote: And the camera guys act so fucking non-chalant about just witnessing a man getting shot to death.
yeah... my point exactly. :roll:

Re: USA guy on pcp shot 10x attempting to assault a officer

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:24 pm
by noam
im not really sure what to say to this

if the cops knew the guy was on PCP and he was gona batter the other cop then yeh sure, i suppose shooting him was the only thing guy could have done... except use the dog which was there i spose

hypotheticals

cop obviously looked like he was shitting his load from the moment the guy pulled the tazer out of his face...

Re: USA guy on pcp shot 10x attempting to assault a officer

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:26 pm
by kingldub
Saw this yesterday, those guys laughing and filming the whole thing kinda made me angry.

Re: USA guy on pcp shot 10x attempting to assault a officer

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:33 pm
by node
z6z wrote:
hayze99 wrote: And the camera guys act so fucking non-chalant about just witnessing a man getting shot to death.
yeah... my point exactly. :roll:
I can't see the vid either but yeah some peeps jus filming it like it was some kind of street entertainment is a grim look.

Re: USA guy on pcp shot 10x attempting to assault a officer

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:40 pm
by Laszlo
Seems excessive.

Re: USA guy on pcp shot 10x attempting to assault a officer

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:49 pm
by RandoRando
wub wrote:Did they tazer him in the face and he didn't go down?
basically, probably felt like a bee sting to him.

Re: USA guy on pcp shot 10x attempting to assault a officer

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:53 pm
by grimesceneinvestigation
node wrote: I can't see the vid either but yeah some peeps jus filming it like it was some kind of street entertainment is a grim look.
how would you be if you knew you had a 10 minutes of fame youtube video?



not sure if I wan't to argue about the use of a gun, but the cop did shoot in two time.

the second amount of bullets was fired while the guy had gone down allready.
to use a gun properly, should one not be able to calculate within two frames of a second if what's been fired is enough allready?
the guy may not have died during a trip if he would have let's say gotten one bullet that would "simply" have laid him on the ground.

Re: USA guy on pcp shot 10x attempting to assault a officer

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:54 pm
by wub
RandoRando wrote:
wub wrote:Did they tazer him in the face and he didn't go down?
basically, probably felt like a bee sting to him.
You're basing that on your extensive first hand experience of using PCP?

Re: USA guy on pcp shot 10x attempting to assault a officer

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:58 pm
by Electric_Head
wub wrote:
RandoRando wrote:
wub wrote:Did they tazer him in the face and he didn't go down?
basically, probably felt like a bee sting to him.
You're basing that on your extensive first hand experience of using PCP?
no he`s basing that off his knowledge of Geography
the earth being flat n all

Re: USA guy on pcp shot 10x attempting to assault a officer

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:02 pm
by RandoRando
Im basing it off wikipedia,

"The analgesic properties of the drug can cause users to feel less pain,"

Re: USA guy on pcp shot 10x attempting to assault a officer

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:04 pm
by wub
RandoRando wrote:Im basing it off wikipedia
HAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh wait, you're serious.

Re: USA guy on pcp shot 10x attempting to assault a officer

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:05 pm
by NiGHTS_24
what is pcp used for and what does it help.

Re: USA guy on pcp shot 10x attempting to assault a officer

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:19 pm
by Electric_Head
NiGHTS-24 wrote:what is pcp used for and what does it help.
it`s used for nothing but being abnormally hammered beyond belief, what it does is fuck you up

Re: USA guy on pcp shot 10x attempting to assault a officer

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:25 pm
by unwind
wub wrote:
RandoRando wrote:Im basing it off wikipedia
HAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh wait, you're serious.
It's not all bullshit on there you know. Plus why would anyone make that up? Seems pretty legit to say that a drug like that would dull the effects of pain...

I think the officer used hugely excessive force. The guy falls down after the first/second shot. What was the need for the other 8? Just a power trip for the cop i think. And yeah, in england i would imagine several officers with their batons beating him down to the ground at least... But no deaths...

Re: USA guy on pcp shot 10x attempting to assault a officer

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:29 pm
by wub
Jean Charles de Menezes, anyone?

Re: USA guy on pcp shot 10x attempting to assault a officer

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:40 pm
by ascent
shooting him was right, but not 10 times

too trigger happy, it was like he was just making sure he killed the guy, not just protecting his co-worker