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Headphones: Are they suitable to produce with?

Post by Pulp » Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:35 pm

So I've seen so many people on other production forum slate using headphones for production, and get monitors. But then some of us have problems of not being to play at loud volume all the time. Also, I haven't seen much headphone abuse on this forum. What's your opinion?

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Re: Headphones: Are they suitable to produce with?

Post by Undrig » Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:47 pm

Selector Moldy suggested some Sony mdr 7506 and I never looked back. Only cans in that price range (like $80) I would ever consider making tunes with. Also good for getting a feel for how something will go down in a club on a proper system without the butt rumble of course.

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Re: Headphones: Are they suitable to produce with?

Post by Pulp » Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:52 pm

Undrig wrote:Selector Moldy suggested some Sony mdr 7506 and I never looked back. Only cans in that price range (like $80) I would ever consider making tunes with. Also good for getting a feel for how something will go down in a club on a proper system without the butt rumble of course.
Yeah that's what I thought, and would be more worthwhile in my room. People mostly talk of phasing problems, but I have decent Hi Fi speakers that I can listen to as well. Plus I probably will get some monitors in the future too.

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Re: Headphones: Are they suitable to produce with?

Post by jaimelee » Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:59 pm

I use them for night time production in bed when all others are asleep or when doing surgical EQ work on certain sounds like Synths or Snares.
Other than that, it's all monitor work. I used to jack my Hi-fi from the 90's and use them as monitors but the low end playback was too weak.

Lastly, you have to check you're song mixdown on all different types of speakers anyway so would be handy to have them. :)

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Re: Headphones: Are they suitable to produce with?

Post by Eat Bass » Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:17 pm

yeah a good pair of headphones is great for producing and sound design for the details. its always a good idea to mix down on monitors though.

and yeah its nice to be able to produce late night or when someone else needs quiet or doesn't wanna hear me tweaking a big bro bass for 3 hours LOL

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Re: Headphones: Are they suitable to produce with?

Post by Pulp » Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:43 pm

Eat Bass wrote:yeah a good pair of headphones is great for producing and sound design for the details. its always a good idea to mix down on monitors though.

and yeah its nice to be able to produce late night or when someone else needs quiet or doesn't wanna hear me tweaking a big bro bass for 3 hours LOL
Yes probably a good job you use headphones for that bass as I wouldn't want to hear it either ;) ha

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Re: Headphones: Are they suitable to produce with?

Post by minusworld » Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:52 pm

as long as you check your final mix on a other system aswell your safe.
I produce on sennheiser hd280's and i love them.
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Re: Headphones: Are they suitable to produce with?

Post by Pulp » Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:07 pm

Think for late night sessions I'm gonna need some, so it's between these for me at the minute:

Beyerdynamic DT770

AKG K 240 MK II

Sennheiser HD25-1II

Audio-Technica ATH-M50

The amp for my speakers has a headphones port and so does my Line 6 UX2 external soundcard.

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Post by CE9958 » Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:23 pm

Get a pair of Sennheiser HD650s. Like 300 on amazon as opposed to the 600 something they are on the Sennheiser site. They're considered the best headphones in the world according to headphone magazine. I have them and they're amazing.

The DT770s are the best out of your list mostly because they're the only ones on that list that aren't fatiguing as hell to wear. The sound is good but they don't go as low as I would like them to.

AKGs I believe my roommate has them, they're pretty alright,

HD25's are a bit too low end quality if you ask me and also the most uncomfortable imo.

ATH-M50's are good I have a bit of experience with them but I find their high end very harsh and distracting. Also pretty uncomfortable to wear.
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Post by Pedro Sánchez » Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:33 pm

Beats by Dre or STFU and GTFO, only headphones you can really use for producing!
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Post by fuzion » Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:38 pm

Since I started producing ive always used a £50 pair of Sony headphones and ive never had any problems haha so yes definitely!

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Post by Pulp » Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:42 pm

CE9958 wrote:Get a pair of Sennheiser HD650s. Like 300 on amazon as opposed to the 600 something they are on the Sennheiser site. They're considered the best headphones in the world according to headphone magazine. I have them and they're amazing.

The DT770s are the best out of your list mostly because they're the only ones on that list that aren't fatiguing as hell to wear. The sound is good but they don't go as low as I would like them to.

AKGs I believe my roommate has them, they're pretty alright,

HD25's are a bit too low end quality if you ask me and also the most uncomfortable imo.

ATH-M50's are good I have a bit of experience with them but I find their high end very harsh and distracting. Also pretty uncomfortable to wear.
Thanks for the suggestion mate, but those are like twice what I'd want to be spending at the minute, any other you'd recommend?

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Post by JTMMusicuk » Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:49 pm

like using monitors, you have to get used to the headphones to produce well with them. The problem with headphones is tho that you dont get the crossfeed from speaker to speaker like you would in clubs or radios etc. also because you would want them to colour the sound the bass is usually audible but not prominent making it hard to mix down.
If push comes to shove i use my headphones to produce but i go back to my monitors to mix down

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Re: Headphones: Are they suitable to produce with?

Post by Eat Bass » Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:28 pm

ultrasone pro 900

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Re: Headphones: Are they suitable to produce with?

Post by CE9958 » Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:34 pm

Pulp wrote:
CE9958 wrote:Get a pair of Sennheiser HD650s. Like 300 on amazon as opposed to the 600 something they are on the Sennheiser site. They're considered the best headphones in the world according to headphone magazine. I have them and they're amazing.

The DT770s are the best out of your list mostly because they're the only ones on that list that aren't fatiguing as hell to wear. The sound is good but they don't go as low as I would like them to.

AKGs I believe my roommate has them, they're pretty alright,

HD25's are a bit too low end quality if you ask me and also the most uncomfortable imo.

ATH-M50's are good I have a bit of experience with them but I find their high end very harsh and distracting. Also pretty uncomfortable to wear.
Thanks for the suggestion mate, but those are like twice what I'd want to be spending at the minute, any other you'd recommend?
Just go with the DT770s then. They're definitely a solid set of cans.
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Post by CE9958 » Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:36 pm

fuzion wrote:Since I started producing ive always used a £50 pair of Sony headphones and ive never had any problems haha so yes definitely!
Your mixes sound like classic headphone mixes ma man. No offense. Can't hear much in the way of drums or low end. All very middy and shrill highs.

In reality mixing on headphones should be a last resort...
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Post by Gurnumsbug » Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:05 am

jaimelee wrote:I use them for night time production in bed when all others are asleep
Same! Other than that I really don't use my cans.

I got the AKG K240's for about 100$
They sound great, just lacking in the low's a bit!

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Post by Sonika » Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:26 am

A cool chart for some headphones:
http://cdn.head-fi.org/d/da/1000x4500px ... jokerl.png

Some of the ones that people talk about aren't represented on there though
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Re: Headphones: Are they suitable to produce with?

Post by fuzion » Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:04 am

CE9958 wrote:
fuzion wrote:Since I started producing ive always used a £50 pair of Sony headphones and ive never had any problems haha so yes definitely!
Your mixes sound like classic headphone mixes ma man. No offense. Can't hear much in the way of drums or low end. All very middy and shrill highs.

In reality mixing on headphones should be a last resort...
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Post by CE9958 » Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:53 am

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