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production philosophy

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:00 pm
by Alistairr
do u have one at all? do u stick to it? are DSF users deep thinkers>?!! :lol:


randomly, here is mr scruffs':

I work with samples, then work with musicians to help flesh out the ideas. I think it is very important to keep the roughness, grit & weight you get from sampled music. The aim is a fusion of the two. Sometimes I program samples to sound live, other times I process & edit live stuff to sound like samples. Let’s blur the boundaries! Sometimes I visualise each element as a cartoon person, and try to get this band of imaginary musicians to interact with one another.

Re: production philosophy

Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:06 pm
by lloydy
If i'm not getting somewhere within 30 mins fuck it off and start again lol.Thats about it for my philosophy oh and moan like fuck if the mrs drags me out for the day.

Re: production philosophy

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:13 am
by Alistairr
I sometimes ask myself what exactly is missing from say electronic or music in gernal circa right now, what can i add to an already congested industry, where does my sound fit in and/or how can i manipulate a genre i love to my taste...

i think u gotta ask urself some of those questions...


some of u will no doubt say, just produce msuic and see what happens and i totally agree with u, those questions arent something i regularly ask myself, just like after a session, i might ponder a thought or two, to see exactly what direction i am taking, obviously the responces to those questions are even harder to answer, so its kinda pointless but everyone needs a path to walk upon>?????

Re: production philosophy

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:18 am
by joshisrad
Copy the best and make it better.

Less is more.

Every single thing must be deliberate.

Don't let music production take over your life.

Re: production philosophy

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:19 am
by SoundNuisance
I usually try to think up a scenario and get my music to depict that scene. My newest song, which is in my signature, was inspired after watching a movie. It was about these robots comming to earth and trying to take over. The song starts off somewhat peaceful like the movie did. Then you hear a military personell ready to shoot. Then the robot screams in anger whilst the army is trying to take it down with various weapons. I used a lazer sound to represent the weapons and the robot growl sound to depict the robot. That is my thought process for all songs. Well atleast most.

Re: production philosophy

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 12:39 am
by drift
be original

don't worry about trends

write music that reflects a feeling or an emotion.

to write timeless music ( not sure im there with this one yet, but im workin' on it )

Re: production philosophy

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:03 am
by accordionfan
fuck trends fuck corporate attitude eat healthy and exercise a lot

Re: production philosophy

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:24 am
by joshisrad
accordionfan wrote:fuck trends fuck corporate attitude eat healthy and exercise a lot
bam, so good

Re: production philosophy

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:09 am
by ehbes
Take natural instruments and incorporate them into genres and styles that are completely different, as to make something that is heavy and fun but at the same time organic and rich.

Re: production philosophy

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:49 am
by Dosva
Create authentic music. To me a lot of electronic music in particular has become superficial. So many people want to be the next big star or sound like "x" but in the process the music suffers from a serious loss of genuine feeling. If you are not genuine when it comes to producing, I don't care how well you can craft a sound, you're a failure.

Re: production philosophy

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:12 am
by coogcoo
make the best possible beat for the least possible amount of work

Re: production philosophy

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 2:53 pm
by Alistairr
coogcoo wrote:make the best possible beat for the least possible amount of work

haha i sometimes fall victim of this too

Re: production philosophy

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 3:12 pm
by Anne Droid
i usually take a concept ive been learning about and practice and a apply it with a specific element like a lead bass or sample or drums till I get something i like, then I use that as the basis for constructing a track. And I always finish a track once I start an arrangement... its my rule. even if im not totally feeling it at first I think its really important to put together whole songs and not just little loops. I think people get too caught up with sound design and forget that the ultimate goal is to make actual songs.

Re: production philosophy

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:59 pm
by coogcoo
Anne Droid wrote:i usually take a concept ive been learning about and practice and a apply it with a specific element like a lead bass or sample or drums till I get something i like, then I use that as the basis for constructing a track. And I always finish a track once I start an arrangement... its my rule. even if im not totally feeling it at first I think its really important to put together whole songs and not just little loops. I think people get too caught up with sound design and forget that the ultimate goal is to make actual songs.
^^^ knowledge

finish every track you start and eventually it starts getting a lot easier to make longer and longer tunes

Re: production philosophy

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:12 am
by zerbaman
Never delete anything, absolutely everything can be recycled in some way or another.

Re: production philosophy

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 4:15 am
by illtabulous
Anne Droid wrote:I always finish a track once I start an arrangement... its my rule. even if im not totally feeling it at first I think its really important to put together whole songs and not just little loops. I think people get too caught up with sound design and forget that the ultimate goal is to make actual songs.
This is what I need to start doing I never finish tracks. Like never, not one. i'm really good at making 8 bar loops though... :6:

Re: production philosophy

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:36 am
by jeanblanc
For me I think that the most important thing to work towards in each tune is to evoke some kind of emotional response. I know that is fairly subjective but I think if your music can at least evoke some kind of emotional response in yourself then there's a chance that it might do the same for other people. When I think of all of the music I like, I think that emotion is the one element that they all have in common.

Re: production philosophy

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 11:31 am
by drift
illtabulous wrote:
Anne Droid wrote:I always finish a track once I start an arrangement... its my rule. even if im not totally feeling it at first I think its really important to put together whole songs and not just little loops. I think people get too caught up with sound design and forget that the ultimate goal is to make actual songs.
This is what I need to start doing I never finish tracks. Like never, not one. i'm really good at making 8 bar loops though... :6:

like someones already said, dont delete anything you do. once you start finishing tracks and hit a brick wall in your arrangement or get stuck for inspiration you can go back and find that some of these loops, or parts within the loop, may be in the same key as a project youre working on and that they fit perfectly into your current project, often breathing new life into a section that might be weak or going nowhere.

since i've broken through the barrier of being able to finish tracks i've done this often. even if its just taking the beat from the loop or the melody and not the context of the loop itself.

Re: production philosophy

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 12:13 pm
by JTMMusicuk
the was i see music is that it is an audible insight into someones mind and soul, its the strongest way to convey your true feelings IMO, in terms of how i work i want every track i make to mean something to me in a way where i can look back at it years down the line and remember what frame of mind i was in back then, same idea as having a tattoo or a childhood scar.
Generally i aim to finish every track i start on but sometimes writers block takes its strangle hold.

Re: production philosophy

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:44 pm
by Sydious
My production Philosophy: Normally I start with a midi beat, then add some basic effects (white noise uplifters, downlifters, tension releasers etc.) Then I'll make a simple melody to get a feel for the track, (At this point my track will normally just sound like a Hip-Hop track.) After that I'll start making bass sounds and spend Immense amount hours arranging them in the way I think is the best (I'll be doing basic mix down and mastering stuff along the way for each sound. I'll also add a sub bass layer underneath the main Bassline.) Then once I'm happy with the bassline I'll start fitting in other trippy sounds. For example, in this tune I used a lightsaber sample and added a phaser, ping pong delay, and some other effects Soundcloud
Once I'm happy with the general layout of the track I'll bouce everything into separate audio parts, so I'll have [The Kick], [Snare], [Hi Hats and Cymbals], [White Noise], [The Melody], [The Main Bassline],
, [Risers and Uplifting Effects], And then I'll have 1 or more audio tracks for the main effects Depending on the track. Then finally comes the final mix down/mastering, which is a very long process and requires a lot of patients. So if your looking for a magic knob within your software that will make your track sound full, then your out of luck :o

If you like my tunes, follow me on soundcloud @http://soundcloud.com/dj-sydious, and Twitter @ https://twitter.com/#!/DJSydious, I'll be sure to do the same for you. Also if your a Facebook user, like my fan page http://www.facebook.com/pages/Sydious/317843321593982. Peace and love! :t: