Mastering?

monobajo · Post by **monobajo** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:11 am

i'm using reason and recycle primarily and i am happy with the results i am getting with these apps but, i would like for my traks to be louder. Any suggestions on mastering wuld be apreciated. Have a listen to my traks on my page if you like. They just seam quiet out the player and I find my self boosting the trim onthe mixer when i play them on a sys.

kazuo · Post by **kazuo** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:23 am

reason has got a maximiser built in. that has not much to do with real mastering of course but depending on your your level of mixing skills and professionality it'll do for sure (i'm using it myself). haven't checked your myspace yet though

claw · Post by **claw** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:34 am

i got cheap rates for mastering....drop me a line

janner · Post by **janner** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:00 am

this plug http://www.wavearts.com/FinalPlug5.html can produce amazing results when used delicately (set the threshold at -0.5 as opposed to -6.0db)

claw · Post by **claw** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:44 am

if you are trying to do it qwik....just get yourself a standalone wav editor with a compressor of sorts (cooledit, something like that) ....then just crank the shit out of the volume, maybe sweeten the eq a little and add some 2:1 compression without stomping on the tune totally....its not gonna sound like sterling sound or any the real mastering houses, but your stuff will be louder and alot more suited for playing out live

future producer · Post by **future producer** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:04 pm

Sound on sound have an article on mixing dub this month, it might help others a lot - you gotta pay for it though, it's only 99p.

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jul07/a ... mixing.htm

rebelutionary · Post by **rebelutionary** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:15 pm

Future Producer wrote:Sound on sound have an article on mixing dub this month, it might help others a lot - you gotta pay for it though, it's only 99p.

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jul07/a ... mixing.htm

"Dub started in Jamaica in the late '60s. Some say Osborne Ruddock was the first engineer to create dub mixes; others claim King Tubby as the originator"

Why write about something you dont know? King Tubby IS Osborne Ruddock. They could have atleast done their research.

ekaj · Post by **ekaj** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:38 pm

You should try and get your tracks sounding as loud as possible without it clipping and without any of the m-class devices in reason first.
Make sure you're not clipping (the bottom left red-alert-all-systems-failure button.)

You can get stuff really loud just by EQing out unneeded frequencies from any sound. Snares don't need sub freqs, neither does anything else. Get rid of it from everything else and you can turn your sub up without it 'clashing' with other sounds.

This same rule applies to almost everything. Of course some sounds overlap in the frequency spectrum, but just use your ears.

Once you've got it loud mixdown-wise, slap a default mastering device on the mixer. The maximiser will make the overall track sound 'loud' - but beware, because it also acts as a limiter, so if something is overpowering in the mixdown, the rest of the tracks will 'duck' to make room for that sound.

All about getting to know your tools to be honest!

Keep experimenting

ekaj · Post by **ekaj** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:41 pm

claw wrote:if you are trying to do it qwik....just get yourself a standalone wav editor with a compressor of sorts (cooledit, something like that) ....then just crank the shit out of the volume, maybe sweeten the eq a little and add some 2:1 compression without stomping on the tune totally....its not gonna sound like sterling sound or any the real mastering houses, but your stuff will be louder and alot more suited for playing out live

I would say compression/external mastering is another story man. I think he should concentrate on getting his mixdowns sorted out first... that seems to be the problem imho.

Btw - got new tunes for you!

thenapking · Post by **thenapking** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:42 am

my god! that osborne ruddock/king tubby confusion is a school boy error. who sub edited that? i doubt it's worth paying 99p for that article. i always find with SOS that the articles start off interesting and like they are going to be full of useful tips. and then they are 2 pages too short & useless.
anyways, i always find that if i use the Waves mastering plugins (L2/LinMB etc) on the master bus it makes my mixes sound good. Although knowledgeable sound engineers tell me that this is the wrong way to approach things. Still it sounds like compression is the key to make your mixes better.

roqqert · Post by **roqqert** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:05 pm

use your ears compression/eq/maximizer and youll get your louder stuff

if youre lazy you could look at the mastering combinater and put the maximizer output button higher

gravious · Post by **gravious** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:40 pm

thenapking wrote: anyways, i always find that if i use the Waves mastering plugins (L2/LinMB etc) on the master bus it makes my mixes sound good. Although knowledgeable sound engineers tell me that this is the wrong way to approach things.

Thats easy to say if you're a knowledgeable sound engineer though eh!

For playing out, and testing out your tunes on a system, usually a decent mixdown and some compression/limiting will do. The reason mastering thingy isn't pretty, but it does that job ok.

Just don'r rely on it - good mixdowns are key. I am a lazy bastard however, so have fallen fowl of this a few times!

stenchman · Post by **stenchman** » Wed Jul 25, 2007 10:45 pm

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roqqert · Post by **roqqert** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:11 am

compress every instrument you got. play with it till it sounds hell yeah

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efa · Post by **efa** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 2:00 pm

http://www.izotope.com/products/audio/ozone/

Set to cd master for my test presses.

docvicious · Post by **docvicious** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:42 pm

u need to use T.Rack for a final mastering proccess its badass...got a EQ, Limiter and compressor in the one unit....just cranks the whole thing up...but apart from that yeah u need to compress each track until the mix sounds banging....

kulture · Post by **kulture** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:17 pm

Use cubase man, rewire reason to cubase and get a few good mastering VSTs.. if not, use wavelab, that's a good basic mastering program... read the help tho to explain all the various tools. (and have nice speakers)

Sharmaji · Post by **Sharmaji** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:19 am

in general, the less compression on the master the better. you want your tunes, at least tunes for the dancefloor, to punch, and not sound all smunched together-- really easy to cross that line if you're not 100% sure of what you're doing.

multi-band compression can really help control things and not take the oomph out of 'em, but it's a long process to really learn to make it work for you. otherwise it can really, really make things sound horrible

affordable mastering is all about sexy eq'ing and limiting

super-expensive mastering adds various kinds of clipping (the 'soft clip' function in reason gets you close to that) to get the volume up

the free 'inspector' plug-in is your best friend... analyze professionally mastered recordings and make your eq curves and levels look like that. if after eqing & limiting your levels are peaking @ 0, and your rms levels (the darker ones) are between -10 and -5 --you're in the clear

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