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-I discovered that some filters e.g tone2 bifilter can actually make things sound more aggressive even though they have taken away from the sound. (Especially the analog LP filter on it can really beef things up!)

-Quality reverbs can make a huge difference to the sound. If you are using a lot of it in your mixes as it is but you are using a low quality reverb then you can be seriously sabotaging yourself, be more critical with what you are putting into your chain.

Feel free to add to the list!

Just a Q on the quality reverb thing, any freeware you can recommend?

blinkesko wrote:Just a Q on the quality reverb thing, any freeware you can recommend?

The Kjaerhus is well rated and free

http://getthatprosound.com/the-10-best- ... the-world/

Here's a list of reverb's to look into

flangers haha

Absynth 5 as a filter,run audio through its input and then just use the filter,it sounds great.
Also using breaks within a track i have started i speed them up with logics flex editor set to speed so it pitched them up a lot,i then cut bits out to use as percussion and it sounds quality.Also using random sounds as percussive elements,tried it this week and will be using it a lot in future tracks,adds a very strange sounding element to the beats but very effective.

Also a new plugin chain that sounds quality on reece sounds,it goes
reece
filter
distortion
logic's space designer set to plate minimal wet ir high passed.
Tape delay
phaser with minimal settings
multiband compressor,to bring down the lows and up the mids
stereo exciter

Probably the best sounding plugin chain i have created so far.The phaser just made the sound really thicken up with plenty of movement.

lloydy wrote:Also a new plugin chain that sounds quality on reece sounds,it goes
reece
filter
distortion
logic's space designer set to plate minimal wet ir high passed.
Tape delay
phaser with minimal settings
multiband compressor,to bring down the lows and up the mids
stereo exciter

would you do this straight of the synth or after some freq splitting and stuff cause i could see trouble with the tape delay on the low mids or do you use the effects just on the higher parts?

Not sure what to do with it yet, but I have been experimenting with hard-panning my synths, and have found something I want to really dig into. My current experiment involves very basic synths - I'm in Fruity, so it's just a pair of 3xOsc set up identically. Right, you can do whatever with them effects-wise but I have them programmed to play the same thing at the same time, with an exception being that the last note of the pattern involves a slide, and I'm having each side slide in from opposite directions (so left slides down to the resolving note, right slides up).

But the interesting thing for me has been working with a Notch filter on each, sweeping in different directions. It's a bizarre sense of movement, but a sense of movement nonetheless. The most intriguing results so far have come from setting them up using sine-shaped waves in automation, with slightly different oscillation times. Say, over a course of eight bars, one side sweeps through the full range of motion eight times, the other side seven.

I guess in short: hard-panning is taboo but you can make a LOT of movement happen with it.

BudSpencertron wrote: do you use the effects just on the higher parts?

Yep,logics built in tape delay you can high pass/low pass.I never overdo the effects and always have a goniometer set up on my main out to check for phase cancellation.
Also i just copied the channel took of all stereo effects used the gain plug from logic's utility to turn the copied track to mono then low passed and used this for the sub.
On the first channel i high passed,in a way it's frequency splitting but i'm not stringent on making sure nothing overlaps.Like i said goniometer on the main out to see if phasing is occurring if it is then i go in and see what's the cause and deal with it if i have to.

thanks for info

BudSpencertron wrote:thanks for info

No worry's mr mush

hehe

Iv learned I'm as shit at making trance as i am at dubstep

Hey good thread. I really like the TAL-Reverb for something free. It's a really nice plate reverb, very clean sounding. Everything TAL makes is sick to be honest.

I haven't had as much time as I would like this week to learn something new, but as far as plugin chains go there is no set way of doing it for me. I just keep adding when I feel like the sound needs something and taking away when the sound doesn't until I get what I want. But, that being said I'm getting some nice results this week by going to the routing table in massive and changing the FB to come after Filter 1 and Insert 1 and 2. If I set both inserts to sine shaper and turn up the drive a little as well as push the feedback knob a little it gives the sound a lot more grit. If I turn the sustain all the way up on the amp envelope within massive and crank the volume to clip the sound within massive while keeping it from clipping within my mixer channel I get some very neurofunk sounding textures. Especially if I resample into Kontakt and whack a saturation at 100% on there.

I learned that I suck at mixing/mastering. :')
No matter how many video tutorials and forums I read.

I feel stuck in a pile of shit I can't comprehend.

But I guess if it has to be positive... I learned how to make a "whoop" sounding laser.

blinkesko wrote:Just a Q on the quality reverb thing, any freeware you can recommend?

Tal Reverb II

Amazing free reverb for Mac and Windows

Also, while you're at it, they have an absolutely SICK freeware delay called Tal-Dub Delay

+Smartelectronix ambience (mentioned in the article) is sick too, a bit of cpu hog, though

Variety of Sound plugins. Absolutely incredible freeware effects.
W1 Limiter by george young (I think). Very good freeware emulation of the Waves L1.
Reaplugs. Freeware effects from reason.
Sonimus SonEQ.
TR-909 vst. Great for basslines.
Anything TAL as said above.

I'm probably missing out loads of quality plugins, but those are the freeware plugins that spring to mind. So much quality stuff available for free

Not so much learning as rediscovering - having a session of just sound design which is awesome

i learnt what u said in the first post sometime this week as well, i love that analog LP!
also iv learnt yesterday that sonigen modular is absolutely sick for basses (a free modular synth, looks like synthmaker a bit)
i start with each different oscillator then i use a lot of the filters and FM them with some of the oscs for more bite. then u can just feedback whatever sounds you want back into the middle of the chain. easily sounds as polished as Massive or any hybrid synth when done right.