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When layering kicks...

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 8:04 pm
by Comfi
do you just slap them together or EQ them to fit snugly into each other?

Re: When layering kicks...

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 8:10 pm
by OfficialDAPT
Comfi wrote:do you just slap them together or EQ them to fit snugly into each other?
NEVER just "slap" anything together... so the answer is definitely EQ them to fit together because you want them to sound like one fat kick not two semi-fat kicks on one another

Re: When layering kicks...

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:31 pm
by Insahn
I slapped a couple together today and it sounded great. Minimal eqing was necessary. I think its all about using your ears and A/Bing. EQing is definitely import, but its not always necessary to be surgical with it.

Re: When layering kicks...

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:33 pm
by Shum
OfficialDAPT wrote:
Comfi wrote:do you just slap them together or EQ them to fit snugly into each other?
NEVER just "slap" anything together...
why not? :(

Re: When layering kicks...

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:35 pm
by lloydy
You need to think why you a layering them first and them decide if they need eq.
If you are choosing one for the lows and another for the midrange snap if they need eq then use it if not don't.It all depends on the sample material.
I only really ever layer snares,i normally find kiks just need a little processing to get them how you want.

Re: When layering kicks...

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:49 pm
by ZankUSA
Just learn about EQing.. find good samples... you can't turn a totally awful sample into a phat sample.. just browse use some 808 kicks, just watch out for sub interference.

Re: When layering kicks...

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:53 pm
by billybuxton
I have trouble layering drums so i brought a book called "Art Of Drum Layering" by Eddie Bazil
I highly recommend it

Re: When layering kicks...

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 9:54 pm
by dickman69
Shum wrote:
OfficialDAPT wrote:
Comfi wrote:do you just slap them together or EQ them to fit snugly into each other?
NEVER just "slap" anything together...
why not? :(
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: When layering kicks...

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 10:03 pm
by Perej
Can anyone ever really use an 808 sample straight out of the box? I've got the Goldbaby ones and they all sound pretty poor, or is that just the software I'm using them in? My mate plays them in Logic and they sound better :?

Re: When layering kicks...

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 10:06 pm
by Ongelegen
The amp envelope is a great tool for layering, but often overlooked imo.

Re: When layering kicks...

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 11:15 pm
by 3za
Perej wrote:Can anyone ever really use an 808 sample straight out of the box? I've got the Goldbaby ones and they all sound pretty poor, or is that just the software I'm using them in? My mate plays them in Logic and they sound better :?
I hate to break it to you but, I think your mate might have better speakers than you.

Re: When layering kicks...

Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 11:31 pm
by Gewze
3za wrote:
Perej wrote:Can anyone ever really use an 808 sample straight out of the box? I've got the Goldbaby ones and they all sound pretty poor, or is that just the software I'm using them in? My mate plays them in Logic and they sound better :?
I hate to break it to you but, I think your mate might have better speakers than you.
:lol:

Re: When layering kicks...

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 12:32 am
by Perej
3za wrote:
Perej wrote:Can anyone ever really use an 808 sample straight out of the box? I've got the Goldbaby ones and they all sound pretty poor, or is that just the software I'm using them in? My mate plays them in Logic and they sound better :?
I hate to break it to you but, I think your mate might have better speakers than you.
Lool. No
I've got krk rokits
he uses Macbook pro speakers. :P

Re: When layering kicks...

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 12:58 am
by 3za
Perej wrote:
3za wrote:
Perej wrote:Can anyone ever really use an 808 sample straight out of the box? I've got the Goldbaby ones and they all sound pretty poor, or is that just the software I'm using them in? My mate plays them in Logic and they sound better :?
I hate to break it to you but, I think your mate might have better speakers than you.
Lool. No
I've got krk rokits
he uses Macbook pro speakers. :P
Like I said, "he's got better speakers than you".

Re: When layering kicks...

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 1:00 am
by hasezwei
i doubt you can hear an 808 on laptop speakers

Re: When layering kicks...

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 1:08 am
by Gewze
hasezwei wrote:i doubt you can hear an 808 on laptop speakers
basically subs
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Re: When layering kicks...

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 1:12 am
by nowaysj
OfficialDAPT wrote:NEVER just "slap" anything together
Excepting genitalia :u:

Re: When layering kicks...

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 1:19 am
by Perej
3za wrote:
Perej wrote:
3za wrote:
Perej wrote:Can anyone ever really use an 808 sample straight out of the box? I've got the Goldbaby ones and they all sound pretty poor, or is that just the software I'm using them in? My mate plays them in Logic and they sound better :?
I hate to break it to you but, I think your mate might have better speakers than you.
Lool. No
I've got krk rokits
he uses Macbook pro speakers. :P
Like I said, "he's got better speakers than you".
:(

Re: When layering kicks...

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 4:35 am
by outbound
I'm on the hunt for a decent 808 kick atm (gold baby ones I used weren't cutting it ) the ones I've used are too clicky and although I could low pass / compress etc I'm looking for some samples that have the majority of the sound I'm after from the word go.

Re: When layering kicks...

Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 5:17 am
by nowaysj
If you find better 808's than GoldBaby, let me know.