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I was looking to find wavetables similar or in the same family as the wavetables in massive. More specifically the deep throat and modern talking wavetables. Does anyone know what these wavetables are made of or can direct me to other wavetables from the same family? I would really appreciate if someone was able to dive deep into the makeup of the wavetables, if the solution requires.

reasons malstrom has a throat wavetable thats similar to massive

With the geoblend option in Zebra 2 you can make wavetables that sound pretty much like massives. Still they are different of course but that again is not negative.

Divane wrote:With the geoblend option in Zebra 2 you can make wavetables that sound pretty much like massives. Still they are different of course but that again is not negative.

I second this! Massive is quickly becoming pretty outdated imo. The new generation of synths are far more powerful. Zebra2 is a prime example, being able to draw your own waveforms and create wavetables with a set of powerful tools and the semi modular design allowing you to route things in crazy ways.

Check out Zebra

I appreciate the responds! Zebra 2 sounds very interesting. I agree massive is becoming somewhat dated and that is why I was trying to figure out other solutions. I do like the throat and mtalk wave tables..does anyone know what these wave tables are made of? They kinda sound like a clav with some ring mod added, not sure though, any ideas?

they sound to me very much like pretty standard complex waveforms that have been processed with a formant filter.

Each 'wave' in the wavetable, i presume, has been processed with an EQ peaking appropriately to create a vowel, which has then been bounced and used as the wave for that part of the wavetable. The same has been done for each vowel, and the table has been created from a series of these. Massives wavetable engine then interpolates between these when you turn the WT position dial.

I could be totally wrong though, but that's how you could go about recreating it.

That begs an interesting question. If you process a wave with an EQ and cut a single cycle/tiny section from the resulting waveform, does it retain the effect of the EQ?

Circle?

Turnipish Thoughts wrote: That begs an interesting question. If you process a wave with an EQ and cut a single cycle/tiny section from the resulting waveform, does it retain the effect of the EQ?

My guess would be yes, in that any sound will have the EQ cut boost on it regardless of length of time (say +3 boost across all of the spectrum) , of course if you had a boost in the 1 k area, and only took a smipet of the begining of a sound that opens up (filter cutoff) over time you wouldnt hear any benefits. my 2cents dont know for sure.

oh and Gladaiator 2 , think there were some vowel osc's in there and it allowed you to morph them with other wave forms in interesting ways.
But dont know if they sound the same.