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Skrillex Saws? - (NOT BASS, and not what you think either)

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:06 am
by Deathadder99
Okay, I'm not a massive fan of skrillex, and all his crazy monster bass sounds, but I love his kind of saw/chordal hit type synths, and I'm really not sure how to make something like it. All my attempts have been supersaw type things, but they don't have anywhere near the punch of what this has. Google turns up absolutely nothing, apart from the hundreds of "OMG HOW DO I MAKE BASS LIKE SKRILLEX" posts. Any ideas? I've tried heavily compressed distorted supersaws, and I suspect those are along the right lines, but It's not anywhere near as close as I'd like. I use NI Massive pretty much exclusively (REDIZER too sometimes) as well, just so you are aware. Thanks :)

Examples:

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1:37-1:40

Re: Skrillex Saws? - (NOT BASS, and not what you think eithe

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:21 am
by bassbum
Try a saw wave and a square wave. Detune the square wave by like 20 cent. Then add a lfo to both OSC pitch and set that to about 70 cent. Then keep the LFO un synced and turn the rate all the way up.

Its not exactly it but its close. SHould get you going in the right direction.

Re: Skrillex Saws? - (NOT BASS, and not what you think eithe

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:25 am
by Deathadder99
Thanks a lot! I have a driving lesson now, but I'll try that later. :)

Re: Skrillex Saws? - (NOT BASS, and not what you think eithe

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:50 pm
by BombsandBottles
Your perception of the way those saws sound is altered because of where they are in the mix and the Lead on top of them and Bass underneath them.

All you need is some Saws detuned supersaw style, unison upped according to your taste or whatever method you want to get more detunage/oscillators, and a little bit of White Noise oscillator on top of them. Then you can throw on some tape saturation to bring out a little crunch and you should be on the right track.

Also, once you've got your chords laid out and your sound done, if you want you're chord hits to all sound uniform and the same, just record them to audio, choose one you like, and use the audio clip of that chord hit whenever you need it.

Re: Skrillex Saws? - (NOT BASS, and not what you think eithe

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 3:39 pm
by Deathadder99
Thanks.The bouncing to audio tip I hadn't really thought of, and yeah I know layering is key, but my supersaws are never really punchy enough and sound more like pads, and I suppose I'm just looking for tips to give them the power and punch I need.:)

Re: Skrillex Saws? - (NOT BASS, and not what you think eithe

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:14 pm
by BombsandBottles
Deathadder99 wrote:Thanks.The bouncing to audio tip I hadn't really thought of, and yeah I know layering is key, but my supersaws are never really punchy enough and sound more like pads, and I suppose I'm just looking for tips to give them the power and punch I need.:)
Well like I said, a lot of the "punch" you hear in those skrillex saws comes from the other parts of the composition.

There's a kick underneath it (punchy), then there's a bass note underneath them (body), and then there's that lead on top of them.

I guarantee if you trigger a kick drum every time you hit your supersaw (with short attack and decay/no release i hope) it'll sound punchier. You can also gently compress your supersaw to add some snap.

Re: Skrillex Saws? - (NOT BASS, and not what you think eithe

Posted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 5:30 pm
by Climax
just like to add, you should mess with your ADSR envelop (lower decay / adjust sustain) if you want more "plucky" and less "pad" sounding chords

Re: Skrillex Saws? - (NOT BASS, and not what you think eithe

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:35 am
by Rezzidex
oh god .you skrillex fans (noobs) never give up do ya?

Re: Skrillex Saws? - (NOT BASS, and not what you think eithe

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:14 am
by Dankstep
Rezzidex wrote:oh god .you skrillex fans (noobs) never give up do ya?
What does being a fan of skrillex have to do with being a noob? This was a good question, as I was also curious about such saw sounds. Honestly stfu. We wan't to learn the basis of a new sound, that's only going to help us with sound design, the more you know the better. So I don't see the damn problem.

Re: Skrillex Saws? - (NOT BASS, and not what you think eithe

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:17 am
by Attila
Let the trolls be with their pretentiousness, they're not worth even worth acknowledging.

Re: Skrillex Saws? - (NOT BASS, and not what you think eithe

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:36 am
by Mindforce
Dankstep wrote:
Rezzidex wrote:oh god .you skrillex fans (noobs) never give up do ya?
This was a good question, as I was also curious about such saw sounds. Honestly stfu.
+1

I can't even enjoy listening to skrillex more than one song every now and then. But honestly I would be soooooo fuckin proud if I had as much skill at producing as he does :o

As a drummer and having periodically learnt 2 other instruments, I can appreciate pretty much any music that takes talent, and even music that takes no talent if I like the souund of it.

But unfortunately Haters gonna hate

Re: Skrillex Saws? - (NOT BASS, and not what you think eithe

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:50 pm
by OfficialDAPT
Rezzidex wrote:I'm a douche bag
We know, we know...

Re: Skrillex Saws? - (NOT BASS, and not what you think eithe

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:31 am
by Rezzidex
Dankstep wrote:
Rezzidex wrote:oh god .you skrillex fans (noobs) never give up do ya?
What does being a fan of skrillex have to do with being a noob? This was a good question, as I was also curious about such saw sounds. Honestly stfu. We wan't to learn the basis of a new sound, that's only going to help us with sound design, the more you know the better. So I don't see the damn problem.
the fuck you talkin about bitch? you wanna learn sound design you have millions of threads on this fuckin forum,plus the whole internet - i suggest doing your research before you post stupid questions.And i said that you are a skrillex fan AND a noob,i dont hate skrillex or his music i just hate his fans ,you probably heard one of his song a few month ago and your like "uuu i wanna make it too" ,WE SHOULD CREATE A SKRILLEXFORUM ,SPECIAL, FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU.

Re: Skrillex Saws? - (NOT BASS, and not what you think eithe

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:33 am
by Rezzidex
OfficialDAPT wrote:
Rezzidex wrote:I'm a douche bag
We know, we know...
ahhahahahha i would love to write you a clean fuck of reply ,but i aint got ime to fuck with you

Re: Skrillex Saws? - (NOT BASS, and not what you think eithe

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:48 am
by Fauster
Woah g you really gotta settle the fuck down.

Re: Skrillex Saws? - (NOT BASS, and not what you think eithe

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:20 am
by Burgeamon
Woahhh... First person I've blocked.

Right - I can't listen the example but I think I know the part you mean and it'll almost certainly be layered.

Try some sort of bass sound like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soaliOjSJVE then some kind of super saw chord sequence above that. Add a sub and some punchy drums and you'll be filling out the freq spectrum nicely.

Re: Skrillex Saws? - (NOT BASS, and not what you think eithe

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:31 am
by zeta
Rezzidex wrote:
OfficialDAPT wrote:
Rezzidex wrote:I'm a douche bag
We know, we know...
ahhahahahha i would love to write you a clean fuck of reply ,but i aint got ime to fuck with you
:cornlol: This from the same person who wanted to sell out and make bro because it was popular...

So don't hate.

Re: Skrillex Saws? - (NOT BASS, and not what you think eithe

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:37 am
by mekha
Rezzidex wrote:
Dankstep wrote:
Rezzidex wrote:oh god .you skrillex fans (noobs) never give up do ya?
What does being a fan of skrillex have to do with being a noob? This was a good question, as I was also curious about such saw sounds. Honestly stfu. We wan't to learn the basis of a new sound, that's only going to help us with sound design, the more you know the better. So I don't see the damn problem.
the fuck you talkin about bitch? you wanna learn sound design you have millions of threads on this fuckin forum,plus the whole internet - i suggest doing your research before you post stupid questions.And i said that you are a skrillex fan AND a noob,i dont hate skrillex or his music i just hate his fans ,you probably heard one of his song a few month ago and your like "uuu i wanna make it too" ,WE SHOULD CREATE A SKRILLEXFORUM ,SPECIAL, FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU.
You should create a forum for special retards, like you. :U:

Re: Skrillex Saws? - (NOT BASS, and not what you think eithe

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:54 am
by RandoRando

Re: Skrillex Saws? - (NOT BASS, and not what you think eithe

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:22 pm
by benjam
Skrillex....rezzidex.....nah prolly just me...