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Talking bass : Getting more clarity on vowels/formants
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:12 pm
by Derkou
Hi,
So i'm trying to do that talking bass with the automated eq technique, but whatever i do i can't seem to get the clarity they get in brostep tunes. I mean i can make any modulation from any vowel to another, that's not a problem, but i don't think the effect is as distinctive as those in the musics i listen to. The vowels i get seem more muddy, less popping out of the bass, with more shallow contours. So i thought it was a matter of eqing the sub bass, and maybe i do it wrong but it's not a fix.
How can one make the vowels in a talking bass more present and add clarity?
Thanks.
Re: Talking bass : Getting more clarity on vowels/formants
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 8:31 pm
by hasezwei
eq'ing out the right frequencies, which is depending on the sound you're after.
notches and resonant filters (resulting in peaks) are what makes a vowel most of the time.
also splitting frequencies and distorting the highs (or using an exciter) will give shit clarity.
Re: Talking bass : Getting more clarity on vowels/formants
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:15 pm
by Instep
definitely not modulating the sub with eq i don't think
Re: Talking bass : Getting more clarity on vowels/formants
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 9:19 pm
by Hircine
bandpass or isolate the middle frequencies and d/w it with the original signal.
Re: Talking bass : Getting more clarity on vowels/formants
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:00 pm
by Smiles
In ableton the eq has vowel presets so thats what i use lol. But just keep practicing and experimenting with eqing and filters and layering.
Re: Talking bass : Getting more clarity on vowels/formants
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2012 10:06 pm
by Derkou
Yea, i tried to layer a separate middle frequencies with more aggressive distortion and it seems to add more definition to the bass. BTW, i always keep my sub appart from the rest in order to avoid clutter and flabbiness.
What do producers try to reach in terms of waveform/texture qualities when they want their bass to talk? I mean, shall i aim for a different bass than if i didn't want it to talk (eq, layer, osc) so it could highlight the vowels?
--> i also use Abletons vowels presets and maybe that's the problem, maybe i shall tweak them to accentuate their contours but my few tries didn't lead to something good.
Re: Talking bass : Getting more clarity on vowels/formants
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:00 am
by ephyks
Use a flanger and put the speed to an appropriate rate that pans throughout the sound well. Throw a vocoder on it and a chorus. Gets you a pretty basic vowel sound. The result isn't really predictable, so to get it to move how you want, you have to do some precise adjusting.