Can you Sidechain a EQ point?

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Can you Sidechain a EQ point?

Post by jetpackjotto » Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:23 am

This idea came to me while thinking of ways to deal with the kick/sub problem. I believe I may have even read about it before...

But anyway, is it possible to have a dip in the EQ on a SUB bass track occur every time a kick drum hits?

I'd imagine I find the frequency where the kick drum resonates, and then have that frequency dip every time the kick hits so room is made/no conflicting freqs....

thoughts? :o

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Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?

Post by IELMusic94 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:48 am

You could probably do something similar to that with automation, but the effect probably wouldn't sound much different than if you were using sidechain compression, except the pumping that occurs during sidechain compression would be reduced. Honestly, I think the best way to mix kick and sub is to structure your sub bass parts around the kick if possible, and/or high-passing the kick to about 70Hz or so, and try to avoid hitting notes too close to that frequency.

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Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?

Post by OfficialDAPT » Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:59 am

Yes you can, what DAW are you in
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Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?

Post by jrisreal » Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:22 am

Yes you could. Very easy in FL Studio...but in most cases, just sidechaining it to the sub volume would do perfectly, plus it's cleaner.
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Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?

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Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?

Post by hasezwei » Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:08 pm

in reaper you can sidechain everything to anything

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Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?

Post by Electric_Head » Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:19 pm

hasezwei wrote:in reaper you can sidechain everything to anything
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Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?

Post by Ada » Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:00 pm

Why not just do a frequency split the sub into 2/3 channels and then sidechain one of the channels (the one with the sub)?

Should work with any DAW.

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Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?

Post by wormcode » Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:26 pm

Depone wrote:I swear by this - http://www.meldaproduction.com/mdynamiceq/
Yeah some of the best plugins around. FL Peak controller can do it easy, pretty sure the Autofilter in Live has sidechain. I would just draw automation though tbh, you can shape it easier that way.

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Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?

Post by 1point5 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:03 pm

Ada wrote:Why not just do a frequency split the sub into 2/3 channels and then sidechain one of the channels (the one with the sub)?

Should work with any DAW.
+1 for this, I was gonna suggest it

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Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?

Post by hasezwei » Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:18 pm

1point5 wrote:
Ada wrote:Why not just do a frequency split the sub into 2/3 channels and then sidechain one of the channels (the one with the sub)?

Should work with any DAW.
+1 for this, I was gonna suggest it

So many creative and useful possibilities are opened up once you start to get a little bit more advanced with buss routing!
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Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?

Post by Ada » Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:28 pm

hasezwei wrote:
1point5 wrote:
Ada wrote:Why not just do a frequency split the sub into 2/3 channels and then sidechain one of the channels (the one with the sub)?

Should work with any DAW.
+1 for this, I was gonna suggest it

So many creative and useful possibilities are opened up once you start to get a little bit more advanced with buss routing!
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Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?

Post by dubesteppe » Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:58 pm

Depone wrote:I swear by this - http://www.meldaproduction.com/mdynamiceq/
Melda makes amazing plugins! Can you please describe your process of using this? I've tried many times and failed :corntard:
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Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?

Post by JTMMusicuk » Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:57 pm

Ableton compressor has an eq option which does exactly this, never use it though..

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Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?

Post by dubesteppe » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:03 pm

JTMMusicuk wrote:Ableton compressor has an eq option which does exactly this, never use it though..
the eq option lets you eq the side chain signal. so you could low pass your side chain signal and have everything below 100 hz trigger the compression.
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Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?

Post by wub » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:23 pm

jetpackjotto wrote:This idea came to me while thinking of ways to deal with the kick/sub problem. I believe I may have even read about it before...

But anyway, is it possible to have a dip in the EQ on a SUB bass track occur every time a kick drum hits?

I'd imagine I find the frequency where the kick drum resonates, and then have that frequency dip every time the kick hits so room is made/no conflicting freqs....

thoughts? :o

I do this on nearly every track, someties 2/3 on a specific EQ, so that kick (for example) will mid range when the snare hit and likewise have it's top clipped to let the hats slip through.

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Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?

Post by mikeyp » Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:26 pm

i actually did it backwards once, so that when the sub was hitting the kick wouldn't hit too low, but when there was no sub the kick was full

automating eq in fl with parametric eq 2 is awesome and full of possibilities

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Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?

Post by Dr_Driller » Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:05 pm

why don't you wan't to use automation ?

whith automation you have more control on the curve, and you can change the frequency down on the synth beetween snare step and kick step

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