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Can you Sidechain a EQ point?
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:23 am
by jetpackjotto
This idea came to me while thinking of ways to deal with the kick/sub problem. I believe I may have even read about it before...
But anyway, is it possible to have a dip in the EQ on a SUB bass track occur every time a kick drum hits?
I'd imagine I find the frequency where the kick drum resonates, and then have that frequency dip every time the kick hits so room is made/no conflicting freqs....
thoughts?

Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:48 am
by IELMusic94
You could probably do something similar to that with automation, but the effect probably wouldn't sound much different than if you were using sidechain compression, except the pumping that occurs during sidechain compression would be reduced. Honestly, I think the best way to mix kick and sub is to structure your sub bass parts around the kick if possible, and/or high-passing the kick to about 70Hz or so, and try to avoid hitting notes too close to that frequency.
Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:59 am
by OfficialDAPT
Yes you can, what DAW are you in
Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:22 am
by jrisreal
Yes you could. Very easy in FL Studio...but in most cases, just sidechaining it to the sub volume would do perfectly, plus it's cleaner.
Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:10 am
by Depone
Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:08 pm
by hasezwei
in reaper you can sidechain everything to anything
Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:19 pm
by Electric_Head
hasezwei wrote:in reaper you can sidechain everything to anything
and back to everything
Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 1:00 pm
by Ada
Why not just do a frequency split the sub into 2/3 channels and then sidechain one of the channels (the one with the sub)?
Should work with any DAW.
Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:26 pm
by wormcode
Yeah some of the best plugins around. FL Peak controller can do it easy, pretty sure the Autofilter in Live has sidechain. I would just draw automation though tbh, you can shape it easier that way.
Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:03 pm
by 1point5
Ada wrote:Why not just do a frequency split the sub into 2/3 channels and then sidechain one of the channels (the one with the sub)?
Should work with any DAW.
+1 for this, I was gonna suggest it
So many creative and useful possibilities are opened up once you start to get a little bit more advanced with buss routing!
Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:18 pm
by hasezwei
1point5 wrote:Ada wrote:Why not just do a frequency split the sub into 2/3 channels and then sidechain one of the channels (the one with the sub)?
Should work with any DAW.
+1 for this, I was gonna suggest it
So many creative and useful possibilities are opened up once you start to get a little bit more advanced with buss routing!
hoes is bussin dooown bussin dooown

Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:28 pm
by Ada
hasezwei wrote:1point5 wrote:Ada wrote:Why not just do a frequency split the sub into 2/3 channels and then sidechain one of the channels (the one with the sub)?
Should work with any DAW.
+1 for this, I was gonna suggest it
So many creative and useful possibilities are opened up once you start to get a little bit more advanced with buss routing!
hoes is bussin dooown bussin dooown

rofl don't know why I thought this was funny but it really made me lol IRL

Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:58 pm
by dubesteppe
Melda makes amazing plugins! Can you please describe your process of using this? I've tried many times and failed

Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:57 pm
by JTMMusicuk
Ableton compressor has an eq option which does exactly this, never use it though..
Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:03 pm
by dubesteppe
JTMMusicuk wrote:Ableton compressor has an eq option which does exactly this, never use it though..
the eq option lets you eq the side chain signal. so you could low pass your side chain signal and have everything below 100 hz trigger the compression.
Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:23 pm
by wub
jetpackjotto wrote:This idea came to me while thinking of ways to deal with the kick/sub problem. I believe I may have even read about it before...
But anyway, is it possible to have a dip in the EQ on a SUB bass track occur every time a kick drum hits?
I'd imagine I find the frequency where the kick drum resonates, and then have that frequency dip every time the kick hits so room is made/no conflicting freqs....
thoughts?

I do this on nearly every track, someties 2/3 on a specific EQ, so that kick (for example) will mid range when the snare hit and likewise have it's top clipped to let the hats slip through.
Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:26 pm
by mikeyp
i actually did it backwards once, so that when the sub was hitting the kick wouldn't hit too low, but when there was no sub the kick was full
automating eq in fl with parametric eq 2 is awesome and full of possibilities
Re: Can you Sidechain a EQ point?
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:05 pm
by Dr_Driller
why don't you wan't to use automation ?
whith automation you have more control on the curve, and you can change the frequency down on the synth beetween snare step and kick step