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EPA admits that fluoride is toxic

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:22 am
by parson

Re: EPA admits that fluoride is toxic

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:59 am
by Sexual_Chocolate
Fox news.... Lol

Re: EPA admits that fluoride is toxic

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:11 am
by frank grimes jr.
Misleading article is misleading.

Re: EPA admits that fluoride is toxic

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:30 am
by ketamine
...So what are we supposed to do with this information, Parson? Stop drinking water?

Re: EPA admits that fluoride is toxic

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:50 am
by hdechter
ketamine wrote:...So what are we supposed to do with this information, Parson? Stop drinking water?
No dummy. You gotta think like Fox news....youre supposed to invade fluoride in the name of freedom.

Re: EPA admits that fluoride is toxic

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:20 am
by wormcode
The US is still one of the only places to purposely add fluoride to water isn't it? Fairly sure it's illegal in some other places.

Re: EPA admits that fluoride is toxic

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:24 am
by Hircine
wormcode wrote:The US is still one of the only places to purposely add fluoride to water isn't it? Fairly sure it's illegal in some other places.
we add it over here and we get nothing but nice teeth.

Re: EPA admits that fluoride is toxic

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:28 am
by Shum
Large parts of New Zealand still have fluoridated water. There are also a handful of groups opposed to it here.

Re: EPA admits that fluoride is toxic

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:11 am
by dmz007
Half of Auckland has flourided water. The other half have shit teeth. Coininidence? I think not.

Re: EPA admits that fluoride is toxic

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:49 am
by parson
you're sposed to shit your pants and cry to mommy now

Re: EPA admits that fluoride is toxic

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:50 am
by parson
and act real threatened and helpless asking me what to do.

Re: EPA admits that fluoride is toxic

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:16 am
by Leave Blank
didn't realise this was news to some people. That article is over a year old too.

Re: EPA admits that fluoride is toxic

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:18 am
by wormcode
Leave Blank wrote:didn't realise this was news to some people. That article is over a year old too.
I expected as much so it wasn't really news. I don't keep up with that though, I put far worse stuff into my body than fluoride I'm sure. Just had a bottle of OE, can't be much better haha.

Re: EPA admits that fluoride is toxic

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:04 pm
by Hibbie
Pretty sure that about half the counties in the uk use flouride

Re: EPA admits that fluoride is toxic

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:09 pm
by node
I don't get putting fluoride in the water...I thought you weren't s'posed to eat toothpaste? Good for teeth, not so sure about stomachs..

Re: EPA admits that fluoride is toxic

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:39 pm
by hugh
node wrote:I don't get putting fluoride in the water...I thought you weren't s'posed to eat toothpaste? Good for teeth, not so sure about stomachs..
flouride creates a lattice that is more similar to tooth enamel than any other chemical lattice-compound we can easily/cheaply access. This effectively makes it a great temporary protective sheath over the front of the enamel and it also helps to fill in gaps and pits.
There's never been a question over fluoride's toxicity - it's a highly dangerous/reactive substance in high enough concentrations. If you went and swallowed a 100ml of water that was 50% fluoride you can kiss the sky. You won't last 10 minutes.
However, at these low concentrations and kept in an emulsified salt as in toothpastes, it is much less dangerous, but clearly we are starting to see some side effects to using it a lot.
What I can say is that there is almost no risk involved as long as you don't actually swallow it.

Re: EPA admits that fluoride is toxic

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:41 pm
by wolf89
Don't have it in the water in my county.


Waaaaay

Re: EPA admits that fluoride is toxic

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:51 pm
by node
hugh wrote:
node wrote:I don't get putting fluoride in the water...I thought you weren't s'posed to eat toothpaste? Good for teeth, not so sure about stomachs..
flouride creates a lattice that is more similar to tooth enamel than any other chemical lattice-compound we can easily/cheaply access. This effectively makes it a great temporary protective sheath over the front of the enamel and it also helps to fill in gaps and pits.
There's never been a question over fluoride's toxicity - it's a highly dangerous/reactive substance in high enough concentrations. If you went and swallowed a 100ml of water that was 50% fluoride you can kiss the sky. You won't last 10 minutes.
However, at these low concentrations and kept in an emulsified salt as in toothpastes, it is much less dangerous, but clearly we are starting to see some side effects to using it a lot.
What I can say is that there is almost no risk involved as long as you don't actually swallow it.
I see! I hear swallowing water's quite popular. :D Think I wouldn't mind keeping the two seperate really.

Re: EPA admits that fluoride is toxic

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:21 pm
by Gewze
node wrote:
hugh wrote:
node wrote:I don't get putting fluoride in the water...I thought you weren't s'posed to eat toothpaste? Good for teeth, not so sure about stomachs..
flouride creates a lattice that is more similar to tooth enamel than any other chemical lattice-compound we can easily/cheaply access. This effectively makes it a great temporary protective sheath over the front of the enamel and it also helps to fill in gaps and pits.
There's never been a question over fluoride's toxicity - it's a highly dangerous/reactive substance in high enough concentrations. If you went and swallowed a 100ml of water that was 50% fluoride you can kiss the sky. You won't last 10 minutes.
However, at these low concentrations and kept in an emulsified salt as in toothpastes, it is much less dangerous, but clearly we are starting to see some side effects to using it a lot.
What I can say is that there is almost no risk involved as long as you don't actually swallow it.
I see! I hear swallowing water's quite popular. :D Think I wouldn't mind keeping the two seperate really.
:lol: :lol:

Re: EPA admits that fluoride is toxic

Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 2:23 pm
by hugh
i got confused haha
but fluoride is in toothpaste. In water it's in such a low concentration (at least here in the UK) that it won't really affect you at all. No more harmful than table salt at the kind of concentrations we use.