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Time stretching without sounding like shit?
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:41 am
by tavravlavish
I've never quite mastered stretching out a sample without making it sound bad. I usually try to melt it with reverb or something. I know some people have pretty powerful time stretching programs, I'm still rocking audacity. Any words of wisdom?
Re: Time stretching without sounding like shit?
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:53 am
by Skrew
Of the couple months I've visited this forum, I've probably seen the question at least 10 times.
Re: Time stretching without sounding like shit?
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:01 am
by ehbes
lowpass it, reverb as insert reverb as send near 100%
Re: Time stretching without sounding like shit?
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:43 am
by hypersleep
Use something better than Audacity. There are much better time stretching algorithms in almost any other commercial DAW or audio editor.
Re: Time stretching without sounding like shit?
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:27 am
by NinjaEdit
FL's Edison has further parameters.
Re: Time stretching without sounding like shit?
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:51 am
by wub
Edison still has artifacts popping up way too often for my liking.
Have a fiddle with PaulStretch, it seems to cope with the artifacts a lot better than most.
Re: Time stretching without sounding like shit?
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:09 am
by Electric_Head
I find the Elastique pro Timestretch algorithm in Reaper does a pretty super job at time stretching while still limiting the Matrix style time stretch.
Re: Time stretching without sounding like shit?
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:15 am
by mks
What are you trying to timestretch? Drums or something else?
It depends on if you are going for an effect or just to get something in the right tempo.
The smallest amount possible usually works best unless you are going for an effect type thing.
Re: Time stretching without sounding like shit?
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:52 am
by wormcode
Electric_Head wrote:I find the Elastique pro Timestretch algorithm in Reaper does a pretty super job at time stretching while still limiting the Matrix style time stretch.
Just wanted to mention here that pretty much every major DAW uses the Elastique and Elastique Pro algorithms. They license it from Zplane... FL, Cubase, Reaper, Ableton Live, Kontakt and loads more. It's the best 'instant' realtime timestretching around for the processing power so they all use it. I think Logic uses one from iZotope.
Re: Time stretching without sounding like shit?
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:57 am
by Electric_Head
The thing is Wormcode, most DAWs aren't natively set to use Elastique pro.
So you get major stretching algorithms.
But once you set it up correctly it's like night and day.
Re: Time stretching without sounding like shit?
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:08 am
by wormcode
That's probably true, I haven't seen that myself but it doesn't surprise me some would have more than 1. I haven't noticed that option in most software though, but I don't use Reaper exclusively so might have missed it in there. Pretty sure Cubase 6 is now using the Pro by default. Also Reason 6+ is using a proprietary one I think, and I hear great things about it. It's the one from Record.
Re: Time stretching without sounding like shit?
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:13 pm
by sunny_b_uk
to my ears kontakt is the best for stretching things 50% or so
paul stretch is the best for stretching at 200%+
izotope iris is amazing for stretching simple sounds but when dealing with complex basses it sucks, konkakt is the best for stretching basses IMO.
Re: Time stretching without sounding like shit?
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 3:38 pm
by ehbes
wormcode wrote:That's probably true, I haven't seen that myself but it doesn't surprise me some would have more than 1. I haven't noticed that option in most software though, but I don't use Reaper exclusively so might have missed it in there. Pretty sure Cubase 6 is now using the Pro by default. Also Reason 6+ is using a proprietary one I think, and I hear great things about it. It's the one from Record.
Reason 6 has a couple different ones to choose from
Re: Time stretching without sounding like shit?
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:48 pm
by gl1tch
How do you change algorithms in Reason?
Re: Time stretching without sounding like shit?
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:16 pm
by ehbes
In the audio track in rack view there's an option that says Timestretch, next to a little drop down box
Re: Time stretching without sounding like shit?
Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 8:57 pm
by gl1tch
Nice one, thanks.
Re: Time stretching without sounding like shit?
Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 4:32 am
by Artie_Fufkin
Copy and paste single cycles of the waveform?
Re: Time stretching without sounding like shit?
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:06 pm
by dubesteppe
Re: Time stretching without sounding like shit?
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:37 pm
by viberous
ableton live
Re: Time stretching without sounding like shit?
Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:51 pm
by Sine69