I understand what adding -step to a word does to it's perceived genrefication, but what are the -core and -style suffixes supposed to represent?
The only -core and -style genres I'm really familiar with both come with a hard- prefix...
Re: -step, -core and -style
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:18 am
by pete_bubonic
grindcore
breakcore
jumpstyle
I think the core suffix is supposed to denote something being taken to an extreme, perhaps, as in breakcore, is the extremities of break editing? I'm not very knowledgable about Grindcore, but I think it's a rather extreme version of that deathmetal sound?
Jumpstyle, fuck knows. That shit baffles me.
Re: -step, -core and -style
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:22 am
by wub
Ok, so -core is a more extreme version of a genre then?
Dubcore is basically hard dance with 'Dub' (and I use the term very fucking loosely) elements.
Re: -step, -core and -style
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:52 am
by murky21
Stepcorestyle?
Re: -step, -core and -style
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:52 am
by herbs
Gangnam Style?
Re: -step, -core and -style
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:55 am
by wub
murky21 wrote:Stepcorestyle?
Corestyle are actually an NL Promotions company who are involved with the DefQon raves, IIRC.
Re: -step, -core and -style
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:57 am
by Forum
pete bubonic wrote:grindcore
breakcore
jumpstyle
I think the core suffix is supposed to denote something being taken to an extreme, perhaps, as in breakcore, is the extremities of break editing? I'm not very knowledgable about Grindcore, but I think it's a rather extreme version of that deathmetal sound?
Jumpstyle, fuck knows. That shit baffles me.
You need to get on the chillcore
Re: -step, -core and -style
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:58 am
by wub
southstar wrote:You need to get on the chillcore
Re: -step, -core and -style
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:59 am
by murky21
ahhh so chill
Re: -step, -core and -style
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:59 am
by Forum
So fresh and so clean ♫
Re: -step, -core and -style
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:00 am
by wub
And lets not forget GarageStep;
Re: -step, -core and -style
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:02 am
by pete_bubonic
wub wrote:Ok, so -core is a more extreme version of a genre then?
Dubcore is basically hard dance with 'Dub' (and I use the term very fucking loosely) elements.
maybe? I'm just throwing suggestions about. Maybe it's a reference to using the heart, the core, of the genre in a new (and possibly extreme) way? So Breakcore evolved from D&B and Jungle, with the break editing at it's heart?
Or more likely, some journalist thought it sounded cool?
Re: -step, -core and -style
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:05 am
by Forum
I dont think anyone though that deep about it, they just took the last part of hardcore and stuck it on the end
Re: -step, -core and -style
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:09 am
by murky21
House-style
Re: -step, -core and -style
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:29 am
by wormcode
wub wrote:Ok, so -core is a more extreme version of a genre then?
Dubcore is basically hard dance with 'Dub' (and I use the term very fucking loosely) elements.
Very loosely...very, haha.
Basically yeah, though not all extreme music uses those suffixes I'm sure you know. It's become a bit childish/cheesy I think... though 'breakcore' sounds better and makes more sense than its previous name - drill 'n bass.
'Step' I think always referred to certain drum paterns in whatever genre. Like techstep was very techno inspired, rigid drum machine type dnb (originally anyway).
wub wrote:Ok, so -core is a more extreme version of a genre then?
Dubcore is basically hard dance with 'Dub' (and I use the term very fucking loosely) elements.
Very loosely...very, haha.
Basically yeah, though not all extreme music uses those suffixes I'm sure you know. It's become a bit childish/cheesy I think... though 'breakcore' sounds better and makes more sense than its previous name - drill 'n bass.
'Step' I think always referred to certain drum paterns in whatever genre. Like techstep was very techno inspired, rigid drum machine type dnb (originally anyway).
In fact, Bionics made a `dubcore` track in 2006 or something... it`s actually dubbed `90s hardcore so it`s not that silly of a moniker
I own it on vinyl
EDIT: oh sorry, do you mean stuff like this? I like it, is that bad? Mind you, it`s a little bland...
Re: -step, -core and -style
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:39 am
by wolf89
I thought that core refered to hardcore
like grindcore - it's referring to hardcore punk.
Breakcore is like the most hardcore break shit?
dubcore - hardcore dubstep?
Re: -step, -core and -style
Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:45 am
by magma
I don't think there are major rules for "style", but "core" is definitely anything in-extremis, but it's really a contraction of "hardcore"*. Breakcore = Hardcore Breaks.
*Dubstyle tends to take the kick styling of hardstyle tracks, while combining them with the rhythm, groove, and dubstep tempo and effects a fusion of elements of hardstyle with a dubstep rhythm, usually a 2-step or a breakbeat rhythm. Because of the non-straightened beat in dubstyle, the bass is often more dragged out and/or it doesn't follow a strict offbeat pattern that regular hardstyle incorporates, which in turn results in Dubstyle basslines bearing similarities to dubstep basslines. The first mainstream dubstyle track was Headhunterz & Brennan Heart's "The MF Point of Perfection".