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Hey,
I started producing dubstep when I was ... about 14 years old. In past i hang around with british movie makers in the gaming scene and they used dubstep in their clips
so I wanted to produce it by myself.
I am using:

Fl Studio 10
massive
AKG K518 (im gonna buy monitors soon)
Focusrite scarlett 2i2
and a CME mkey midi keyboard

The first track i ever listnd to was emalkay - when i look at you. Pretty awesome but the older i got, the better get the music i listnd to.
In the last few weeks I made a huge jump in producing music and understanding theory of music producing but now i stuck.

I mean I produce music for years but Im not that good as i should be and i am not satified with my music! I dont know why but my music does not
sound.. groovy and alive. My wobbles are not that good and i dont want to just copy wobble presets or watching tutorials. Of course im able to create my own wobbles and synths but they do not match with each other. the whole track is not smooth and so on. often i dont know how to do some effects or keep my music alive.
usually i dont release my music but i got 2 tracks online.
To the pros out there, how can i improve myself and develope faster?

Soundcloud

Here is a soundexample of a track i made a few weeks ago.

im no "pro" but umm

1.) Read about synthesis and how to use your preferred synth
2.) Read about an aspect you are interested in
3.) Read about music making
4.) Make music
5.) Experiment
6.) Make music

Personally i reckon 4, 5 and 6 are the only necessary ones

^

have you tried to put a donk

u need drive and determination more then anything to see a project through, its all very well having ambitions for new projects such a few decent dusbstep tracks, but like so many producers if you see the project through your just wasting everyones time

You need to start networking, get out ther, use AIM FB, Twitter myspace whatever. Make friends with nice people who actually give a shit about up and coming producers and can produce the music you want to be able to make. pay them complitments and give them feedback on their music. after a while when you are nice and pally ask them to listen to one of your songs (your best one) and ask for feedback. set up a bond/alliance where you regualarly give feedback on each others music. it works trust me

Oh and dont get offended or try to defend yourself if they give critcism. and work on waht they suggest

Gryphonyx wrote:You need to start networking, get out ther, use AIM FB, Twitter myspace whatever. Make friends with nice people who actually give a shit about up and coming producers and can produce the music you want to be able to make. pay them complitments and give them feedback on their music. after a while when you are nice and pally ask them to listen to one of your songs (your best one) and ask for feedback. set up a bond/alliance where you regualarly give feedback on each others music. it works trust me

Oh and dont get offended or try to defend yourself if they give critcism. and work on waht they suggest

IMHO I would practice production techniques and read as many tutorials as possible before trying to get others to critique your work. Make it as good as you can, then ask for other's opinions about the stuff that doesn't necessarily stand out to you.

giving/receiving compliments don't necessitate critical review of your work.

Usually if someone is nice enough to compliment my work, I will try to be kind to them in return (even complimenting their tunes on parts which I like, while not criticizing their mix, or mastering technique). If someone goes out of their way to be nice and listen to my tunes, I'm not going to point out everything I think is wrong with their music.

A good way to improve the sound you're going for is to get as close as you can to what you think sounds how you want it to, then maybe pay a mastering engineer to go over your work and point out where the track stands out and where it needs improvement. Even if you only spend like 100$ to have a tune mastered, the learning experience can be invaluable, it can make you realize where and how you need to work on improving your music in the future. Plus if you're paying someone to look over your work (as long as they are trustworthy) it can lead to them maybe giving you some tips, and since you are paying for their time, they won't feel bothered to offer you real constructive criticism.

if ur not good at wobbles... dont make wobbles

rayman612 wrote:if ur not good at wobbles... dont make wobbles

That would be a freeze in development. If you are bad at math, give a shit on math?

ariosa wrote:IMHO I would practice production techniques and read as many tutorials as possible before trying to get others to critique your work. Make it as good as you can, then ask for other's opinions about the stuff that doesn't necessarily stand out to you.

giving/receiving compliments don't necessitate critical review of your work.

Usually if someone is nice enough to compliment my work, I will try to be kind to them in return (even complimenting their tunes on parts which I like, while not criticizing their mix, or mastering technique). If someone goes out of their way to be nice and listen to my tunes, I'm not going to point out everything I think is wrong with their music.

A good way to improve the sound you're going for is to get as close as you can to what you think sounds how you want it to, then maybe pay a mastering engineer to go over your work and point out where the track stands out and where it needs improvement. Even if you only spend like 100$ to have a tune mastered, the learning experience can be invaluable, it can make you realize where and how you need to work on improving your music in the future. Plus if you're paying someone to look over your work (as long as they are trustworthy) it can lead to them maybe giving you some tips, and since you are paying for their time, they won't feel bothered to offer you real constructive criticism.

Sound interesting but I really dont have connections to producer. I know some very skilled DJs but they are selfish and unfriendly.

Tell me about your ways of producing music

ariosa wrote:have you tried to put a donk

I find Youtube and invaluable resource. "If you want to learn how to do something, watch someone who knows how".

u dnt have to make wobbles just b/c everyone else does

i mean if u really want to yea w/e

Subkontra wrote:

rayman612 wrote:if ur not good at wobbles... dont make wobbles

That would be a freeze in development. If you are bad at math, give a shit on math?

Well yeah, if you are shit at maths, dont go study it at university, study something else that you are better at.

If you are shit at making shit dubstep, make something else that you are better at, or dont make anything at all and dj, or do some visual art or some shit

Subkontra wrote:

rayman612 wrote:if ur not good at wobbles... dont make wobbles

That would be a freeze in development. If you are bad at math, give a shit on math?

ariosa wrote:IMHO I would practice production techniques and read as many tutorials as possible before trying to get others to critique your work. Make it as good as you can, then ask for other's opinions about the stuff that doesn't necessarily stand out to you.

giving/receiving compliments don't necessitate critical review of your work.

Usually if someone is nice enough to compliment my work, I will try to be kind to them in return (even complimenting their tunes on parts which I like, while not criticizing their mix, or mastering technique). If someone goes out of their way to be nice and listen to my tunes, I'm not going to point out everything I think is wrong with their music.

A good way to improve the sound you're going for is to get as close as you can to what you think sounds how you want it to, then maybe pay a mastering engineer to go over your work and point out where the track stands out and where it needs improvement. Even if you only spend like 100$ to have a tune mastered, the learning experience can be invaluable, it can make you realize where and how you need to work on improving your music in the future. Plus if you're paying someone to look over your work (as long as they are trustworthy) it can lead to them maybe giving you some tips, and since you are paying for their time, they won't feel bothered to offer you real constructive criticism.

Sound interesting but I really dont have connections to producer. I know some very skilled DJs but they are selfish and unfriendly.

Tell me about your ways of producing music

Honestly producing a tune is just building and refining the elements you want to have in your track, then adjusting the mix. I usually start with some drum samples and build a simple drum track, then start adding synths and other elements that I think matches the feeling of the rhythm and flow of the tune as it progresses. Things like melodies and types of basslines are usually up to the producer to create and mesh with the percussive elements of the song, so i really can't tell you how step by step to build these things, every completed track i finish usually is a combination of loads of patience in the synthesis and EQ portion of mixing, and I can't count the amount of times i will put hours of work into a single synth, and still come up frustrated with the fact that it doesn't either fit the song, or it still sounds "off". The main thing is to save your progress, if you have a bank of nice sounding synths that you constructed that match your "style" of producing, tracks come together a lot quicker and easier. Then again, sometimes it is nice to start fresh so you can change your style up to be a bit more unique, and so your tunes don't start to all sound the same. when it comes down to it, the mixing is the most important job of production, because even if you have the coolest sounding bassline, it may still sound shitty when you match it with the other elements of the tune. EQ is the biggest part of this, as well as creating a mix that changes throughout the piece, so it doesn't get repetitive and boring, just try to add some variation and check the levels on all of your instruments. once you listen to everything and it feels like it all "fits" together, then maybe you should ask some of your friends who don't know a ton about producing what they think, if they like it, that may be a good point to shoot the track to someone who can professionally master it.

but hey don't take my word for it, i'm not the greatest producer ever.. i don't do it for a living, it's more of a hobby to me, i have yet to have anything on a label.. i don't even send my stuff to labels because i know i haven't mastered the tunes and they don't match up with the standards of a lot of labels and artists.

In order to make killer tunes, you really have to put a ton of time and work into your artistic process, and try not to get frustrated and give up when you think you've reached a dead end and your mix can't be rescued.

here are a few of what i would consider my better tunes for reference:
Soundcloud
Soundcloud

Also youtube is an invaluable resource as well, i learned a ton just from these two videos about making bass sounds:

the thing about mashing wobbles together is riff, same thing with electro guitar

Hey man i read your post, i had the same thing up until recently, and after putting in a bit of hard work with practice and experimentation and youtube video lessons i started making a lot of progress. i posted a comment on your tune on soundcloud recommending some things you could try but yeah you need to look those things up on youtube and just try them out and see what feels right. Your tune has potential and you definitely have the right idea, dont get frustrated and quit, when you make the breakthrough you need youll fucking lose your shit in the best way. Good luck

Feel free to lurk my tunes. www.soundcloud.com/skerrick

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