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Facebook "broken on purpose" to sell promoted services?

Post by alphacat » Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:23 pm

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Is Facebook “broken on purpose” to sell promoted posts?

Traffic from fan pages drops as new option to pay for reach appears.

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In recent months, some Facebook page owners have noticed that their accounts are driving much less traffic to their websites than they used to. In some cases, Facebook clickthroughs are down by as much as half, despite a huge growth in likes. Even worse, some brands noticed that this drop in traffic coincided with a new Facebook feature called "promoted posts" through which brands can pay cold hard cash to push their content out to more news feeds than they would normally reach—and the brands are not happy about it.

This juxtaposition of events makes it look like Facebook is artificially driving down traffic, then holding the old level of traffic hostage in order to generate some new revenue. But Facebook insists it's doing nothing of the sort; instead, the company says that it's just trying to keep its users' Facebook feeds from getting too crufty with promotional posts they don't want to see. In other words, Facebook claims to be on the side of users against the advertisers, even if it's making money on the deal.

The social network finds itself in a delicate position: for the first time, it's trying to strike a balance between helping brands to reach users, keeping users returning to their news feeds, and making money of its own as pressure produce revenue rises.

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The promote-a-post window on Facebook for a fan page.

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Many page owners have noted this year that, even as their number of fans has risen, traffic has gone down. The blog Dangerous Minds wrote about how it rose from 29,000 to 53,000 Facebook likes even as traffic to its site from shared Facebook posts went down by one half to two-thirds in the same time period.

"Spring of 2012 was when bloggers, non-profits, indie bands, George Takei, community theaters, photographers, caterers, artists, mega-churches, high schools, tee-shirt vendors, campus coffee shops, art galleries, museums, charities, food trucks, and a near infinite variety of organizations; individuals from all walks of life; and businesses, both large and small, began to detect—for it was almost imperceptible at first—that the volume was getting turned down on their Facebook reach," wrote the site under the headline "THE BIGGEST ‘BAIT N’ SWITCH’ IN HISTORY?" "Each post was now being seen only by a fraction of their total 'fans' who would previously have seen them."

A post at the New York Observer in September reported that Facebook posts made from a brand's fan page—say, from Macy's, Walmart, or a celebrity like Kim Kardashian—now reach only 15 percent of fans on average. (Ars' own Facebook page has experienced similar fluctuations: even as likes continue to climb, traffic generated by the page has remained unusually low.)

"Facebook is broken, on purpose, in order to extract more money from users," wrote Ryan Holiday, a PR strategist, in that post. Holiday thinks that the broken-ness is meant to drive brands to use promoted posts, which were introduced in May. To promote a post, page owners pay a dollar amount (anywhere from five dollars to thousands of dollars) to increase the reach of a post beyond the number of people who might see it organically.

To outraged users, it's a stickup, but Facebook argues that traffic generated from Facebook pages only seems low because Facebook is just doing what it has always done: grooming every user's feed in order to show them only content that it thinks each user will find interesting. And there's value in this; if your news feed was an equal-opportunity space, it would be at this point nothing but offers for FarmVille produce and a thousand status updates on everyone's new babies. Should that happen, your interest in checking the service might wane. Facebook doesn't show you everything every person or brand you subscribe to says, and it's always been that way.

The lower traffic for posts from fan pages are just part of keeping the feed balanced and interesting ("engaging," in marketing-speak), Facebook says. In a statement sent to Ars, Facebook says that "all content should be as engaging as the posts you see from friends and family." But how does the company square that with the sly offering of the opportunity to override the irrelevance or poor quality of a post with dollar bills?

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Some of the payment tiers to promote a Facebook post on Ars' page.

Poor posts will cost you

Philip Zigoris, a Facebook ads engineer, addressed some of these questions in a blog post last Thursday, but he didn't touch on the sudden drop in traffic from fan pages—the aspect of this story that makes post promotion look the most like a money grab.

He did make the point that promoting posts doesn't automatically blast them to everyone's news feed. "We constantly monitor signals from people in news feed," wrote Zigoris. Signals include likes or comments as well as "hide this post" clicks or reports of spam. "For posts that you see are getting a lot of responses, you can promote them to extend your reach to more news feeds," Zigoris added. A popular post that gets paid promotion can score a huge reach because its quality has been proven, somewhat, by natural selection.

Facebook told Ars separately that the converse of this statement is also true: if a post receives few or mostly negative reactions, it is more expensive for the page owner to promote than if the post were popular on its own, and such posts don't reach as far. The goal is to make sure that even promoted posts feel relevant and interesting to read.

Until recently, brand pages have been governed only by the same newsfeed-grooming rules that are applied to one's Facebook friends. Facebook wouldn't answer our specific questions about brands and traffic, but it does seem clear that posts from brands have grown significantly in the last couple of years and might be in need of some pruning. While the number of brand "likes" by a single user may not outweigh their number of friends, brands have become far more regular posters than individuals, and they have a much broader reach. As of May, the average Facebook user had 229 friends and only 17 percent posted a status update once or more per day, according to one study; as of August, the average Facebook brand/fan page had 40,000 fans and averaged one post per day, according to another.

So perhaps the complainers have a point. Facebook may indeed have curbed brand traffic even as it introduced promoted posts to monetize this filtering process. But Facebook's actions might truly be serving readers at the same time by keeping them from drowning in a post deluge. (If so, it does seem like Facebook should provide users the option to op-out of the filter and see all posts from particular people or brands, should they wish.) And companies that sell ads have always charged for access to an audience.

Whatever the truth of the situation, such disputes are likely to escalate in future as Facebook's drive for revenue threatens to upset a formerly solid balance. Previously, the site largely played referee on news feeds between Facebook friends. Now, as it tries to introduce sponsored content and as brands flock to Facebook, it's caught between keeping brands happy, keeping users interested, and creating a revenue stream for itself. If users' news feeds become a wasteland of Tide advertisements and posts about how many friends have "liked" Target, those users are increasingly unlikely to return. But if Facebook doesn't let brands get their message out without throwing up ever-more toll booths, the brands might jump ship, too, making Facebook's promoted-posts plan a total failure.

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Post by alphacat » Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:57 pm

DMT doesn't compile a psychosocial marketing profile on you and your relationship to other consumers though.

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alphacat wrote:DMT doesn't compile a psychosocial marketing profile on you and your relationship to other consumers though
No, but it does turn my front room into the set from Busta Rhymes' Gimme Some More video.

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Post by nowaysj » Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:26 pm

This is the least of anyone's concern.
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Post by alphacat » Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:51 pm

nowaysj wrote:This is the least of anyone's concern.
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Hardly. The least of my concerns are a long list and include who's gonna win the superbowl, but not this. This is sixth least, at worst.

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Post by nowaysj » Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:10 pm

* in regards to fb. :W:
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Post by dubfordessert » Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:14 pm

alphacat wrote:DMT doesn't compile a psychosocial marketing profile on you and your relationship to other consumers though.
that's what you think.

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Post by alphacat » Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:18 pm

nowaysj wrote:* in regards to fb. :W:
Oh. Yeah. But the moment you point out that stuff everybody's like "why do you hate puppies and Jebus?! I being corporate-inforaped, go wear a tinfoil wizard's hat you troglodyte fuck" or something along those lines. :roll: :lol:
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alphacat wrote:DMT doesn't compile a psychosocial marketing profile on you and your relationship to other consumers though.
that's what you think.

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Post by Phigure » Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:44 pm

i thought that was pretty obvious, no? started happening not long after facebook went public and people started questioning what kind of potential for revenue there really is with facebook. especially after the awful stock performance

i'll call it now: facebook is going to keep struggling as a publicly traded company and will be forced to further reduce the general quality of the site in favor of generating additional revenue. people won't like it, and (slowly) facebook will end up like myspace, and at some point the next friendster/myspace/facebook comes and becomes the new standard. 5 years maybe?
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Post by nowaysj » Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:42 pm

I've given a little thought to this, not much mind you, but fb is a little different than those other services. I'm not sure fb can fail as easily as MySpace and its predecessors did. It is just too entrenched. It makes up too much of people's web experience. Many people no longer even access the wider web on a daily basis. Corporations/other technologies are also too invested in the service.

What I think you will see is more of this odious back door type stuff, under handed gotchas as their power grows. There is definitely a demand for these services in the marketplace, and given fb's dominance and ubiquity, I don't think anyone can challenge them. Maybe governmental actors, but fb doesn't have any silly prohibition on doing evil so I don't see that happening in any significant way.

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Post by noam » Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:53 pm

myspace was 5 years too late to not be defunct by growing technological dependence

if it was new now, with 4g wifi neo-hyper-media-node-net phones it'd probably have done alrite, as it is, facebook came after and just refined the best bits of it for more modern internet capabilities

cant see facebook going anywhere really, its the perfect mix of being able to be basically as anonymous and open as you like, you can skulk around the periphery or add shit loads of people who's face you've seen a few times IRL or even not at all

just the way it is

for those who are really anti-facebook, as a genuine consideration, what is it that it does that really affects your life?

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Post by alphacat » Mon Nov 05, 2012 11:58 pm

noam wrote:myspace was 5 years too late to not be defunct by growing technological dependence

if it was new now, with 4g wifi neo-hyper-media-node-net phones it'd probably have done alrite, as it is, facebook came after and just refined the best bits of it for more modern internet capabilities

cant see facebook going anywhere really, its the perfect mix of being able to be basically as anonymous and open as you like, you can skulk around the periphery or add shit loads of people who's face you've seen a few times IRL or even not at all

just the way it is

for those who are really anti-facebook, as a genuine consideration, what is it that it does that really affects your life?
Directly increased the volume of spam in my life at least tenfold; allowed douches from my past to "reach out" and try to "reconnect". It's mostly the first one I'm irate about though.
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Post by noam » Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:01 am

spam really bothers you???

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Post by alphacat » Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:15 am

noam wrote:spam really bothers you???
Yeah, when it so bombards an account that your friends and family can't get through anymore.
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Post by noam » Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:18 am

block it

most of the tools on facebook can be used to stop unwanted shit getting through

i get loads of spam, but 50% of it is stuff i'd go to or want to find out about anyway, a lot fo stuff is real crap but then i just block it or remove myself from the group or request not to have updates, it can be quite personalised i think

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Post by Genevieve » Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:22 am

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noam wrote:myspace was 5 years too late to not be defunct by growing technological dependence

if it was new now, with 4g wifi neo-hyper-media-node-net phones it'd probably have done alrite, as it is, facebook came after and just refined the best bits of it for more modern internet capabilities

cant see facebook going anywhere really, its the perfect mix of being able to be basically as anonymous and open as you like, you can skulk around the periphery or add shit loads of people who's face you've seen a few times IRL or even not at all

just the way it is

for those who are really anti-facebook, as a genuine consideration, what is it that it does that really affects your life?
Directly increased the volume of spam in my life at least tenfold; allowed douches from my past to "reach out" and try to "reconnect". It's mostly the first one I'm irate about though.
I barely get any spam at all and if you don't want people to add you, just edit your privacy settings?
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Post by InternetSlaveMaster » Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:38 am

The whole "business pages are spamming you!" is bullshit. If I didn't want to see what some shitty business had to say, I either:

1) Wouldn't have liked them in the first place, or
2) Would go to their page and unsubscribe to their posts myself.

So yeah, the whole "facebook protecting its users from spam" is crap.

What I find particularly intrusive is how they've done the same to your facebook friends. I've definitely noticed that I haven't been getting posts from certain friends, so I check their page and see that they posted multiple times that day. That's complete bullshit as well, if I add someone, it's because I want to keep in touch with them/know what they are up to. Facebook claimed they did this so that we are more likely to see who we commonly communicate with, but that makes no sense, since I usually know what my best friend or my girlfriend are up to anyways, I'd like to see what my old friends/extended family/etc are doing.

And when I say "friend", I mean just that; my real life friends. Isn't that what Facebook is meant for, your real friends? I mean, you can get banned for adding people you don't really know (if you get many reports for sending random people requests.) So Facebook knows they are blocking you from your real life friends. If this was Myspace where you just added random people, that would make sense to not show updates from people you never e-interact with, but Facebook is supposed to be people you really know. That just seems a bit fucked up to me.

You can add pages to your "interest list" to see their posts, but I'm really not feeling up to adding 200+ bands I've liked on Facebook to an Interest List right now. (then, I have to check my interest list daily as well to see all these posts. I know, it's not all that hard, but the point is we shouldn't have to be doing this in the first place.)

Whole situation is only hurting Facebook, hopefully some other social networking site (Google+ perhaps?) recognizes this and opens it's arms to musicians/bands/businesses/etc.

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