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I can never get my sub bass right?
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:21 pm
by chaotix
It's weird, it never sits right. I go down an octave lower and it sounds muddy, I go up one and the sine wave sounds to high for my liking in a sub freqency. I have this problem a lot.
Re: I can never get my sub bass right?
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:38 pm
by Jizz
it could just be muddy cos you havent eq'd it properly... Lowpass it at quite a low frequency so you can leave space for everything else above the sub, then maybe give it a little compression to makee it a bit more prominent in the mix
mixdowns play a big role with the sub as well... Might suddenly sound a lot better if you turn it down a bit and let it blend in more
Re: I can never get my sub bass right?
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:42 pm
by Filthzilla
Aim for 45hz.
A pure sine wave at F2 should give you that.
If your track isn't in F, you can add a bass boost at 45hz.
That's my method.
Re: I can never get my sub bass right?
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:44 pm
by Genevieve
JizzMan wrote:it could just be muddy cos you havent eq'd it properly... Lowpass it at quite a low frequency so you can leave space for everything else above the sub, then maybe give it a little compression to makee it a bit more prominent in the mix
mixdowns play a big role with the sub as well... Might suddenly sound a lot better if you turn it down a bit and let it blend in more
It's a sinewave, you don't EQ or filter those.
If there's something wrong with the subbass, and it's a sine, then it's the mixdown. Hi-pass everything but the sub. Either your bassline or kick is in the way.
Re: I can never get my sub bass right?
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:46 pm
by Sinfected
If you are using monitors it can be really hard to place a sub since you shouldnt really hear it at all. If you have any decent headphones, use them as a reference.
What i've found is that as my mixes get better, the sub goes lower and lower, so I tend to mix it as I want it, then lower it abit by default. And even then they usually end up too loud.
If the only issue is the frequency being to high or low for your taste, just picking a different key from the start would solve it.
And if you are using a pure sine sub, lowpassing can rid the click, really dont see the need to compress a pure sine tho.
Re: I can never get my sub bass right?
Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:46 pm
by outdropt
Keep your sub on one octave, use a pure sine wave with a saw wave one octave above at a lower volume.
Use very heavy compression to keep the volume sustained across keys. Maybe some saturation, and low pass around 70-80hz.
Make sure the kick and everything else is high passed at 80hz, if its still muddy side chain compress your sub with your kick slightly.
That is all she wrote.