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Popping sound on sub bass

Post by djfeloe » Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:48 am

Every time i am making a sub bass using Ableton's Operator (also with NI Massive) i get this popping sound when moving from one note to the next. ive tried putting the attack up and the release and also putting down the release but i still get this annoying popping sound.i have also messed with the length of the note but nothing. anyone else have or had this problem before? i can't figure it out and its driving me nuts :u:
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Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Post by dickman69 » Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:51 am

u try EQ
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Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Post by djfeloe » Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:58 am

Yep tried that as well. its weird though because this just started happening recently (would say 3-4 months) didn't have this problem the whole year
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Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Post by OfficialDAPT » Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:58 am

Enable the glide function or make the attack time longer.
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Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Post by djfeloe » Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:01 am

ive tried that as well except turning the glide that high i usually set it to 5.59ms
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Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Post by OfficialDAPT » Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:07 am

I made you a subbass in this ableton project file, let me know if it still pops because then it might be something else rather than ableton.
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Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Post by djfeloe » Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:54 am

Alright ill check it out and let you know tomorrow :W:
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Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Post by mixedbyLUSH » Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:36 am

Add a little attack to Env 4, keeps it from popping. That and if you add a little release to it. Works really well for making a smoother sounding sub in massive.
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Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Post by syrup » Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:49 am

yeah, just turn up attack/release a little
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Post by Augment » Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:48 pm

johney wrote:yeah, just turn up attack/release a little
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Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Post by billy crystal meth » Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:45 pm

smoothing out the attach fixes it for me

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Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Post by Hircine » Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:12 pm

take that filter out, you don't need to filter a pure sine wave nor eq it, then add a bit of attack and release, the pop sound will go away. You don't need to compress it either.
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Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Post by drake89 » Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:46 pm

Hircine wrote:take that filter out, you don't need to filter a pure sine wave nor eq it, then add a bit of attack and release, the pop sound will go away. You don't need to compress it either.
agreed with the compression bit, but I've had this same problem. In massive I never had any luck even after changing the envelopes. So I put two low pass filters at about 100hz in ableton and I embraced the pop. After filtering it sort of sounds like a pitched 808 kick, or whatever the sub sounds like in a lot of rap songs i listen to. I like it and it works for me.

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Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Post by Isley » Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:13 pm

adjusting adsr in the synth also sometimes doesn't help. If thats the case just resample and adjust the adsr in a sampler. And make it monophonic

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Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Post by Artie_Fufkin » Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:27 pm

Use a pop filter

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Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Post by syrup » Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:59 am

too mainstream
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Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Post by djfeloe » Sat Dec 08, 2012 3:09 am

OfficialDAPT wrote:I made you a subbass in this ableton project file, let me know if it still pops because then it might be something else rather than ableton.
http://www.mediafire.com/?k1zkkp3srvxhe37
yo i tried it out but im still getting a slight pop after releasing a key. :baby:
Anybody else have an idea :u:
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Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Post by Gravehill » Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:26 am

Lowpass

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Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Post by mromgwtf » Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:31 pm

djfeloe wrote:
OfficialDAPT wrote:I made you a subbass in this ableton project file, let me know if it still pops because then it might be something else rather than ableton.
http://www.mediafire.com/?k1zkkp3srvxhe37
yo i tried it out but im still getting a slight pop after releasing a key. :baby:
Anybody else have an idea :u:
Maybe that's your audio settings?
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Re: Popping sound on sub bass

Post by VirtualMark » Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:43 pm

The problem with turning up the release of the sub, is that your sub notes can sometimes overlap if you're using lots of synths, causing a spike in the output and possible clipping or distortion. Ideally sub bass should be fairly tight and controlled as it takes up a lot of headroom.

What i do is to make my basses, duplicate the tracks and make a sine patch for each bass. Then render to audio and manually fade the ends of the sub out - this way i can both make sure there's no overlap and also get rid of any clicks.

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